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Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #110245  by bovine
 Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:14 pm
Canada won't sign this non-legally binding UN declaration.

http://www.usask.ca/nativelaw/ddirplain.html

Probably has to do with part 6 and how badly Canada has ignored the problems in reserves (water quality, locations of total segregation, land claims issues, etc.). I'm sure the liberals wouldn't sign it either, but it doesn't make Canada look good on the international stage by not signing this.
 #110256  by kali o.
 Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:26 pm
bovine wrote:Canada won't sign this non-legally binding UN declaration.

http://www.usask.ca/nativelaw/ddirplain.html

Probably has to do with part 6 and how badly Canada has ignored the problems in reserves (water quality, locations of total segregation, land claims issues, etc.). I'm sure the liberals wouldn't sign it either, but it doesn't make Canada look good on the international stage by not signing this.
a) This is soley directed at Canada, so who cares what anyone else thinks.

b) Canada acts in far better faith with it's natives than our Southern friends.

c) Many parts of that either give ridiculous provisions or completely unfeasible ones...I won't bothering listing them all.

Natives want special treatment and autonomy from the government at the same time. Fucking useless. I'm glad Canada won't acknowledge such a stupid draft.

The entire world was built on expansion, colonization and wars. They can get over it, as far as I'm concerned.

PS - where do I sign up for my tax exemption, free university, preferential hiring quotas and a monthly check from the government on behalf of my band?

 #110262  by bovine
 Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:45 pm
I think the Australians actually dreamed this piece of international legislation up.

 #110264  by Zeus
 Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:08 pm
Don't the natives here already have all that? And haven't they used it to further the cause of the their people by opening up casinos and selling legal cigarettes void of governmental taxes? I mean, no natives are gonna get ALL their land back in any country, but I wouldn't exactly cry for them here.

It's the same reason Toyota doesn't bother going after ISO 9002 status (manufacturing quality standard) in Canada: they don't need it. Everyone already knows they have quality that exceeds it so why spend $250k to $500k to get it? Instead they went after the environmental ISO 14001 standard.

Maybe that's why Canada hasn't bothered, it's already ahead of what the UN is proposing and doesn't want to be morally bound by any weird issues that come up?

 #110290  by Imakeholesinu
 Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:37 pm
Zeus wrote:Don't the natives here already have all that? And haven't they used it to further the cause of the their people by opening up casinos and selling legal cigarettes void of governmental taxes? I mean, no natives are gonna get ALL their land back in any country, but I wouldn't exactly cry for them here.

It's the same reason Toyota doesn't bother going after ISO 9002 status (manufacturing quality standard) in Canada: they don't need it. Everyone already knows they have quality that exceeds it so why spend $250k to $500k to get it? Instead they went after the environmental ISO 14001 standard.

Maybe that's why Canada hasn't bothered, it's already ahead of what the UN is proposing and doesn't want to be morally bound by any weird issues that come up?
I wouldn't want to have in writing "I support the neo-con movement and hereby relinquish all power to the Empire of the United States of America as a protectorate."

STOP LIVING IN FEAR! THE BOOGYMAN IS MADE UP!

 #110294  by bovine
 Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:42 pm
bovine wrote:I think the Australians actually dreamed this piece of international legislation up.
I am stupid, it wasn't Australia.... apparently Australia, New Zealand, United States of America, and Canada were among the select few nations with large aboriginal populations to vote against this.

 #110304  by SineSwiper
 Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:53 am
Obviously, the people that wrote it didn't have the experience with large aboriginal populations. Didn't their English teacher (or whatever language they use) tell them to only write what you know?