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  • New 3G 8GB iPhone with GPS support. Price: $199

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.

 #122602  by Zeus
 Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:58 pm
No, free without a monthly plan would be a steal. This is simply a decent price

 #122603  by Flip
 Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:17 pm
Thats pretty tough to beat... if only they expanded away from AT&T, too... nah, what am i saying, i could still never jump on the apple bandwagon, i hate iTunes that much.

 #122606  by SineSwiper
 Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:09 pm
Flip wrote:Thats pretty tough to beat... if only they expanded away from AT&T, too... nah, what am i saying, i could still never jump on the apple bandwagon, i hate iTunes that much.
As you should. Apple did nothing but fuck over the artist EVEN MORE on that one.

 #122612  by Andrew, Killer Bee
 Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:00 am
SineSwiper wrote:As you should. Apple did nothing but fuck over the artist EVEN MORE on that one.
Huh?! How's that?
Zeus wrote:No, free without a monthly plan would be a steal. This is simply a decent price
I realise I shouldn't be arguing about price fairness with a dude that rifles through game boxes for Xbox Live trial subscriptions, but this price, for a device that does what the iPhone does, is amazing. Recent model Blackberries are upwards over $600 over here. The 3G iPhone will be, at most, less than half that. Insane.

 #122614  by SineSwiper
 Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:33 am
Andrew, Killer Bee wrote:
SineSwiper wrote:As you should. Apple did nothing but fuck over the artist EVEN MORE on that one.
Huh?! How's that?
Several
articles
online

Put simply: Apple's iTunes model has actually LOWERED the standards for royalites to artists. And Apple really doesn't give a shit. As long as they are giving less to the customer (lossy format, no lyrics, no cover art) for the same money as CDs, Apple is still making their money and raking in on a racket.

 #122615  by Tessian
 Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:03 am
Apple: We have a bigger marketing budget than you.

 #122618  by Zeus
 Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:34 am
Andrew, Killer Bee wrote:
Zeus wrote:No, free without a monthly plan would be a steal. This is simply a decent price
I realise I shouldn't be arguing about price fairness with a dude that rifles through game boxes for Xbox Live trial subscriptions, but this price, for a device that does what the iPhone does, is amazing. Recent model Blackberries are upwards over $600 over here. The 3G iPhone will be, at most, less than half that. Insane.
Well, I have an Indian fellow who works here and is a huge Apple fan. He's tellin' me that in India, and much of the rest of Europe where he travelled and lived (not Australia, if I remember correctly), the iPhone at even $400 was considered to be too expensive for what it offered. You could get phones that did more, just not necessarily touch screen, for less. This drop appears to be more to take the device from the Apple fan, who have been basically the people buying them at that inflated price, to the mass market, to try and actually make a dent in the overall cell market. Far different market, very price competitive.

Personally, I think that it should come free if you sign a contract with a cell company. I would never pay for a phone then commit to overpaying (much different here; we get MOLESTED on cell rates) for 3-years and only receive a shitty phone with it.

 #122620  by Imakeholesinu
 Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:06 am
Oh, you can't even activate it on your own. Needs to be done at an apple store or AT&T store.

HAHA!

 #122623  by Zeus
 Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:16 am
Imakeholesinu wrote:Oh, you can't even activate it on your own. Needs to be done at an apple store or AT&T store.

HAHA!
It'll be Rogers up here

 #122632  by Tessian
 Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:45 pm
Flip wrote:The new iPhone is more expensive:

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/94465
$10/month does add up quickly, but for the 3G features I think it's justified. What really shocked me was the $15/month charge JUST for being able to use Exchange on the iphone. Talk about giving the shaft to business users-- the iPhone may come to dominate the power-user consumer market, but I don't think it'll be able to touch the Blackberry held corporate market.

iPhone just doesn't compete in a corporate environment-- not only are you paying extra for features that are FREE on other devices like Treos, there's no central management server a la Blackberry Enterprise Servers. Blackberry remains (as far as I know) the only phone that lets a company completely control what every phone they own can and can't do as well as disable and wipe that phone clean in a moment's notice if it's stolen/lost. Until apple can come out with some BES-type server for iPhones they won't get far in the corporate world except for idiot VP's who force their company to buy them a new toy.

 #122661  by Zeus
 Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:44 pm
And the Canadians can expect even more ass-raping charges from Rogers than that.