Poll: Do You Hate Freedom?

[Julius Seeker]

It seems that there is a popular notion around for the past 4 years or so that people who hate being invaded by Western powers also hate freedom. Well, I am just wondering how many of these freedom haters exist here at the Shrine =)

Who here hates freedom!?


Freedom Haters? "we're being challenged in Iraq because there are people there that hate freedom." - Dubbya

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 405-4.html

[Lox]

Yes, I hate freedom. I hate it so much that I once made fun of it until it cried.

[SineSwiper]

If you're not with us, you're against us! You must be a terrorist!

Man, talk about a throwback to 50 years ago...

[Nev]

My friend Dave and I are fond of making fun of Bushian freedom, which is absolutely not to be confused with actual freedom.

If he's frustrated at work, I can usually cheer him up by telling him Bush declared that day to be Freedom Day and that he should go home (but that he should stop at a fast food place on the way home and get some freedom fries first).

It works best if Bush and/or pals are in political hot water that day, which provides the rationale for a potential (completely unbiased and non-manipulative) declaration of Freedom Day.

[Julius Seeker]

Wow, based on early poll results, this overwhelming hatred of freedom is strartling! =)

[Nev]

Yes. We're a hotbed of unpatriotic terrorism, and a threat to the American way of life!

[Shellie]

I went to a school with a kid named Freedom...I didnt like him very much.

[Kupek]

Did anyone else catch this?

Let me ask you a couple of questions. Who is the AP person?

Q I am.

THE PRESIDENT: You are?

Q Sir, in regard to --

THE PRESIDENT: Who are you talking to?

Q Mr. President, in regard to the June 30th deadline, is there a chance that that would be moved back?

Bush actually cut the reporter off because he addressed him as "Sir" and not "Mr. President." Yeah, you're the President, we get the point, you don't have to be a dick about it.

[SineSwiper]

I'm sure that'll be in tomorrow's Daily Show.

[Kupek]

It's a press conference from a year and a half ago, so I doubt it. In fact, I recall seeing some other parts of that press conference in Daily Show clips. (The whole "We're trasnferring sovreignty, but we don't know who's getting it.")

[Kitch]

Congratulations... we've bombed the living shit out of you. You are now free... to do what we say.

- The "democratically elected" government of **** (insert country acronym here using only the letters U S A K or R)

I hate freedom.

Can't I have proper freedom? That it harm none, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Yeah baby!

[SineSwiper]

[SineSwiper]

Can't I have proper freedom? That it harm none, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Yeah baby!

Satanic motto, I believe.

[Nev]

I'm pretty sure that is the wording of one of the main principles of Thelema - Aleister Crowley's system - actually, but that it does not contain the "That it harm none" phrase (though the larger set of principles contains the idea).

LaVeyan Satanism is much less tolerant of fools than Thelema is. In LaVeyan Satanism, for instance, you're allowed (and probably encouraged) to "destroy" someone who is bothering you and will not leave you alone if you ask them to...

[Julius Seeker]

You know you are truly free when you can get drunk at walmart, piss in the cllothing section, and throw bottles where-ever you want, and not have anyone question you about it.

[Nev]

I think that violates the "that it harm none" section of Thelema, Seek.

[Julius Seeker]

I think that violates the "that it harm none" section of Thelema, Seek.

Though if you can't harm anyone and everyone you want, does that mean you are truly free?

[SineSwiper]

I'm pretty sure that is the wording of one of the main principles of Thelema - Aleister Crowley's system - actually, but that it does not contain the "That it harm none" phrase (though the larger set of principles contains the idea).

Yeah, I knew that. Realized that after I posted. Whatever...he's the godfather of modern Satanism anyway. Long live the perfectly balanced hexagram.