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Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.

 #116370  by Tessian
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:58 am
Downgrading to 7.04 let me be able to install the drivers... but the fucking OS doesn't even detect I HAVE a wireless card!

Rrrrr... I can't tell which is a problem of the versioning or which is a problem of using a 64 bit version.

 #116374  by SineSwiper
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:45 am
Not sure without a detailed error message. Usually, you can plug in the error message in Google and get some good results, though.

 #116375  by Kupek
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:00 am
Tessian wrote:Fucking hate vi.... needs to die in a fucking well; but most of the time it's the only damned text editor on Linux distributions by default.
Vi has been my editor of choice for five years now. Vi for life.

And welcome to being a Linux home user. Ain't it fun? (Note: I am not a Linux home user.) Here's a little tip that disagrees with Sine: if the answer to a home use question is "compile your own kernel," give up. It will just lead you down a road of madness. Getting the configuration right so the kernel even boots can take days.
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 #116377  by SineSwiper
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:03 am
I hate vi, too, but I know how to use it. Again, I hate the non-Linux OSs that give me that shitty barebones vi.

 #116378  by Kupek
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:07 am
Tell me you at least don't use a mouse when editing.

 #116380  by SineSwiper
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:20 am
Heh, mouse. Please. Besides, if I'm C&P that much, I'll just edit the damn thing in Textpad and run it through "cat > file"

 #116381  by Kupek
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:39 am
yy
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Or just plain v for visual mode.

Are you an Emacs man, then?

 #116406  by Tessian
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:08 pm
Well I kind of finally got it up... it looks like the aircrack-ng works... but the wireless networks nearby doing WEP aren't nearly chatty enough to do this in a timely manner.

Also got to mess with the GRUB bootloader-- customized it with a splash screen and everything :)

Now if I could figure out why my wired NIC doesn't seem to want to grab a new DHCP if I transfer it from one cable to another on separate networks.

 #116417  by SineSwiper
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:12 pm
Kupek wrote:yy
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Or just plain v for visual mode.

Are you an Emacs man, then?
Is that supposed to make me cool? Does knowing Emacs or Vi mean that I'm going to get laid by some hot model?

Geesh, you're taking this a bit too much in a predictable direction. Vi and Emacs both suck. I used to use DOS 5.0s EDIT.COM, and that still is the best non-GUI text editor I've ever used.

Seriously, what the fuck does it take to get a text editor that can do something as simple as Shift+Arrow to mean "I'm trying to select some text to cut or copy"? I can do it in every GUI-based editor known to man, but somehow this logic is lost when I SSH into something, even though SSH can fully translate the key combination. I don't want to use my mouse, because switching back and forth to different inputs slows me down. And I don't care if the fucking editor can play Tetris; I just want the damn thing to use the international key combination for "selecting some shit".

 #116420  by Kupek
 Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:58 pm
Pssssst, Sine. Lighten up. I'm joking. Mostly. Although I do exclusively use vi, and everyone I know who doesn't exclusively uses Emacs.

The point of an editor like vi is not that it's intuitive. The point is that it's efficient. Put the time in to learn it, and you'll be faster than in GUI based editors. Also keep in mind that vi and Emacs predate the convention of using shift+arrow keys to select something. (But that's easy to do in vi if you press v to go into visual mode.)