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Hold on a sec, this is just NOW coming into law?

PostPosted:Thu May 25, 2006 12:50 pm
by Zeus
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060524/ap_ ... ly_force_1

I'm the first to speak out against unnecessary violence, but this is different. I'm sorry, but if you're attacking me in a public place or my own home, you're going down, period. We all live in a society with the understanding that we don't hurt each other for no reason (needing money isn't a good reason). You break that level of trust, you lose any human rights, IMO, and I will bring you down as well as I can. I mean, I don't want to actually kill anyone and will walk away if I can, but how is this a new law?

If I'm mistaken (very likely not) then I deserve the consequences. If not, bye bye. I mean, if I've got you down, I may just break your kneecaps to ensure you don't do this shit again, but it's just now being decriminalized?

PostPosted:Thu May 25, 2006 3:28 pm
by Nev
Yeah, I do approve of this. If I'm in danger, and it's a real self-defense situation, I don't want to have to worry about whether or not I'm going to get sued for assault if I open fire.

I'm actually thinking of buying a gun for protection, since I don't seem to be moving. Does anyone have any experience with this? I'd like something that's generally non-lethal unless precisely aimed - but bigger than, say, a .22, or something...I don't want to have the bullet richochet off the guy's skull if I'm really in trouble.

PostPosted:Thu May 25, 2006 3:45 pm
by Julius Seeker
Well, at least I know what backwards States I'll never be visiting.

I still don't think that the average Joe understands when deadly force is necessary or not. "Hello could you tell me where 475 Canton street is-" *KaBLAAAM!!*

I'm not going to complain though, I probably won't be visiting any States that pass laws like that. The only ones I visit regularly are Washington (and not for a while), Michigan, New York, Maine, Vermont, Conneticut, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts.

PostPosted:Thu May 25, 2006 4:10 pm
by Nev
Seek, it's not like people open fire on you for asking directions. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.

PostPosted:Thu May 25, 2006 4:34 pm
by Kupek
I can recall no recent cases where someone used lethal force in self-defense, and were subsequently prosecuted for it. I also find the opposite difficult to accept: that people are dying as a result of holding back lethal force in a self-defense situation because they don't think the law is on their side. I don't see this as fixing a problem, and laws that don't fix a problem are generally not necessary. Trying to pass unnecessary laws is just political grandstanding.

PostPosted:Thu May 25, 2006 4:49 pm
by Julius Seeker
Nev wrote:Seek, it's not like people open fire on you for asking directions. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.
Yeah, you're right, I guess I just pulled a Zeus =P

PostPosted:Thu May 25, 2006 4:59 pm
by Zeus
The Seeker wrote:
Nev wrote:Seek, it's not like people open fire on you for asking directions. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.
Yeah, you're right, I guess I just pulled a Zeus =P
I do apologize for having "foresight" and being able to look at the "whole picture" :thumbup: