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PostPosted:Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:17 am
by Julius Seeker
"Jesus Christ! It seems kind of strange that Israel is purchasing such a large amount of weapons later. Could it have something to do with blowing up the Lebanese? I honestly see no correlation here."
"Hey, Miss Rice, she's expendable, lets send HER over to Iran so she can be a martyr!"
PostPosted:Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:21 am
by Zeus
In case you ever wonder why the fighting in the Middle East will never stop
PostPosted:Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:39 pm
by Nev
Yeah, we need to stop that.
Anti-Semitism blows, but this kind of relentless Zionist shit is getting old...to me, anyway...I know the Western world needs strategic outposts in the Middle East and all, but Jesus, stop giving the Israelis more arms in a year than some developing countries see in their entire existence.
Given the current political situation, I understand why we did it, but long-term I really really think we need to get away from this.
PostPosted:Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:32 pm
by Zeus
Nev wrote:Yeah, we need to stop that.
Anti-Semitism blows, but this kind of relentless Zionist shit is getting old...to me, anyway...I know the Western world needs strategic outposts in the Middle East and all, but Jesus, stop giving the Israelis more arms in a year than some developing countries see in their entire existence.
Given the current political situation, I understand why we did it, but long-term I really really think we need to get away from this.
No chance, man. War = money and the US is #1 in the arms business. Remember, they fed both sides of the Iraq-Iran 10 year war in the 80s (the whole NOrth fiasco) back when Iraq was an ally.
Watch Lord of War, it gives a decent explanation of the basic idea.
On a side note, I haven't heard this in the news here, but Israeli Jews are protesting the bombings into Lebanon a lot right now. Their own people aren't happy about it. Heard this directly from my family there. But you don't hear shit like that on the news here, it's "anti-semetic". FYI, the Jews, I believe, are the second biggest lobby group behind the NRA in the US, so it helps with the lack of real reporting on what's going on over there. You need to watch international news (like the BBC and stuff) to get the real news.
PostPosted:Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:30 pm
by Julius Seeker
Where I live we have a very large Lebanese population, some Lebanese families have lived here for hundreds of years. Our last premier was Lebanese. obviously, the sentiment here is very anti-Israel.
Personally, I see nothing anti-semetic about thinking and saying Israel should go to hell. It is not because they're Jewish, it's because they're assholes. Obviously I am not talking about all Israelis, but rather just the ones that are pro-war, pro-Zionist, pro-expansionist. Well, that might be most of them, any of them who realize they aren't supposed to be there probably are not there.
PostPosted:Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:41 am
by Nev
Zeus wrote:Nev wrote:Yeah, we need to stop that.
Anti-Semitism blows, but this kind of relentless Zionist shit is getting old...to me, anyway...I know the Western world needs strategic outposts in the Middle East and all, but Jesus, stop giving the Israelis more arms in a year than some developing countries see in their entire existence.
Given the current political situation, I understand why we did it, but long-term I really really think we need to get away from this.
No chance, man. War = money and the US is #1 in the arms business. Remember, they fed both sides of the Iraq-Iran 10 year war in the 80s (the whole NOrth fiasco) back when Iraq was an ally.
Watch Lord of War, it gives a decent explanation of the basic idea.
On a side note, I haven't heard this in the news here, but Israeli Jews are protesting the bombings into Lebanon a lot right now. Their own people aren't happy about it. Heard this directly from my family there. But you don't hear shit like that on the news here, it's "anti-semetic". FYI, the Jews, I believe, are the second biggest lobby group behind the NRA in the US, so it helps with the lack of real reporting on what's going on over there. You need to watch international news (like the BBC and stuff) to get the real news.
Good times. Remind me to move to the deepest Canadian wastes when the arms industy invents personal nuclear weapons.
PostPosted:Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:27 pm
by Julius Seeker
Nev wrote:Good times. Remind me to move to the deepest Canadian wastes when the arms industy invents personal nuclear weapons.
Our wastelands are beautiful =)
PostPosted:Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:36 pm
by Nev
The Seeker wrote:Nev wrote:Good times. Remind me to move to the deepest Canadian wastes when the arms industy invents personal nuclear weapons.
Our wastelands are beautiful =)
Yes they are. They should be warmer from all the global warming by that point, too...
PostPosted:Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:41 pm
by Nev
The Seeker wrote:Where I live we have a very large Lebanese population, some Lebanese families have lived here for hundreds of years. Our last premier was Lebanese. obviously, the sentiment here is very anti-Israel.
Personally, I see nothing anti-semetic about thinking and saying Israel should go to hell. It is not because they're Jewish, it's because they're assholes. Obviously I am not talking about all Israelis, but rather just the ones that are pro-war, pro-Zionist, pro-expansionist. Well, that might be most of them, any of them who realize they aren't supposed to be there probably are not there.
Yeah. I'm pretty much getting to that point too - I don't agree that Israel shouldn't be over there, but I do agree that they need to cut out the Zionist bullshit. They're gonna set the fucking world on fire.
Also, I'm non-trivially part Lebanese as well, though my dislike of Israel isn't really all that related to that - if I'd actually ever been over there to connect with my roots and etc. I'd probably be even angrier, but I don't really think of myself as more or less Arabic than the other twenty or thirty countries in my genetics.