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  • Bush commutes Libby's sentence

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.

 #108173  by Zeus
 Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:22 pm
Didn't Clinton pardon a whole whack of people in his last year? This isn't a partisan thing, it's a system thing. It's not like you can make him look worse. Bush can't run again, what does he care what people think of him? He's got his cushy multi-million dollar job waiting for him in a year and a half.

 #108178  by bovine
 Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:28 pm
in comparison to Ford pardoning Nixon, this is not news. Also, who didn't see this coming? I'm more surprised he didn't give him a full pardon.

 #108180  by Nev
 Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:08 pm
Ford pardoned Nixon because the country needed to get over Watergate. This isn't the same shit.

 #108187  by Eric
 Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:35 pm
Nev wrote:Ford pardoned Nixon because the country needed to get over Watergate. This isn't the same shit.
You'll live.

 #108189  by Nev
 Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:47 pm
Buddy, I could give a rat's ass about me in this context. I'm not going to really be hurt by all this shit, too much, anyway. It's other people I'm more worried about.

 #108192  by SineSwiper
 Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:20 pm
Nev wrote:Ford pardoned Nixon because the country needed to get over Watergate. This isn't the same shit.
Lies! Ford pardoned Nixon, because Nixon taped EVERYTHING! He likely secretly threatened to leak out certain tapes if he didn't pardon him.

Oh, BTW, our governor is likely going to lose his re-election because he pardoned a bunch of his cronies the same week Katrina hit. (I'm damned surprised that he even won the primaries against a long-time Republican senator.)

 #108200  by Julius Seeker
 Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:59 am
Oh well, at least Paris Hilton is in jail, right?

 #108204  by Nev
 Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:31 am
No, she's out, possibly having signed already for the $1mil she is to be paid for relating her jailtime experiences to some media organization.

 #108254  by Ishamael
 Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:25 pm
There's a difference between having a a sentence commuted and being pardoned. The pardoning will come later.

Libby had his sentence commuted because of a backroom deal where it was agreed he wouldn't spend a day in jail if convicted.

 #108266  by SineSwiper
 Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:25 pm
Ishamael wrote:Libby had his sentence commuted because of a backroom deal where it was agreed he wouldn't spend a day in jail if convicted.
You have proof, or are you just talking out of your ass?

 #108267  by SineSwiper
 Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:35 pm
While looking through Clinton's pardons (which the supporters of the decision are quick to point out), I found an article written about Clinton (BugMeNot required) about his reasonings behind the many pardons he gave out. One paragraph was telling:

On Jan. 20, 2001, I granted 140 pardons and issued 36 commutations. During my presidency, I issued a total of approximately 450 pardons and commutations, compared to 406 issued by President Reagan during his two terms. During his four years, President Carter issued 566 pardons and commutations, while in the same length of time President Bush granted 77. President Ford issued 409 during the slightly more than two years he was president.

I had no idea the POTUS actually issued that many pardons.

 #108378  by Ishamael
 Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:37 am
SineSwiper wrote:
Ishamael wrote:Libby had his sentence commuted because of a backroom deal where it was agreed he wouldn't spend a day in jail if convicted.
You have proof, or are you just talking out of your ass?
If your IQ is below 80, then I'm talking out of my ass. ;)