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So, you still want to be a Computer Science major? If so then I hope you like Indian or Chinese food...
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 11:12 am
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... as">pretty soon this country will just be 10% millionaire managers and the other 90% of us will be their slaves.</a>
So, you still want to be a Computer Science major? If so then I hope you like Indian or Chinese food...</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:15 pm
by the Gray
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I think I read FARK at the exact same time as you....</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 1:05 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Competition will be increased true, but jobs will still be available locally. It's just that more "basic" programming work will be commoditized and a higher average skill level will have to be demonstrated to show value to employers.</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 1:15 pm
by the Gray
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Don't make the mistake of thinking the programmers in China, India and Thailand aren't up to snuff.</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:05 pm
by Flip
<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>no kidding, thos Indians are mathematical genius's, almost likes its second nature.</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:29 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>huh?</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:01 pm
by Anarky
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Hurah! i start my CS major is the fall</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:12 pm
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Good luck... I'm not saying that it's impossible to find a job with a CS degree (although others in here would probably differ) but only that you should only choose that major if there is absolutely nothing else you could see yourself doing besides that which is computer-related.</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:13 pm
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Good luck... I'm not saying that it's impossible to find a job with a CS degree (although others in here would probably differ) but that you should only choose that major if there is absolutely nothing else you could see yourself doing besides that which is computer-related.</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:39 pm
by the Gray
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>They can do the same job as the top programmers at any major IT company, and for about 1/4 or less of the money. Therefore, don't count on getting a plush highpaying IT job in the US anymore.</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:59 pm
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I wonder how long it will be until US companies start outsourcing other departments like accounting, finance, R&D... I doubt that in a decade any white collar job will be safe in the US except for those that require your physical presence.</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:45 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>A CS degree is still more marketable than, say, an English degree. But study what you want. You'll be happier and you'll do better.</div>
I think you misconstrued what I said about "basic" programming work...
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:40 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>...I meant "basic" as in lots of people can do the job (thus making your skillset a commodity) and there's no cost to ship it overseas, not basic as in labotomized chimps could do it (ie, any 'tard walking on the street can do it). And I was hardly referring soley to "major IT" companies in my post. Oh and I have to ask -- do you even know what "top programmers" at "major IT companies" do (or any other company for that matter)? :)
Anyway, I'd go into detail about what I consider to "commodity" programming tasks vs "non-commodity" programming tasks, but I think only Kupek would understand much of it and really, it takes someone who's actually been in the industry to start to grok a lot of it. Let's just say that knowing HTML is not enough to be considered a programmer in most places anymore and you'll start to get the general idea of what I mean by commoditized.</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:41 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>That's already being done...</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:43 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>It's more marketable than most degrees I'd say and the Department of Labor projects that computer related jobs will be among the fastest growing segments in the future. It's just that the gravy train has fallen into a ditch and the bar has been raised (ie, now CS is more like other disciplines )...</div>