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Wesley Snipes gets 3 years in prison

PostPosted:Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:44 pm
by Tessian
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hl9 ... 30Wm5UADPw

Judge makes an example out of him and gives the maximum 3 year sentence for not filing taxes for 5 years.

Suck it Hollywood

PostPosted:Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:05 pm
by RentCavalier
*In Nelson's voice.*

HAW HAW!

PostPosted:Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:31 pm
by Blotus
He'll be out on probation in a month.

PostPosted:Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:55 pm
by SineSwiper
More like 2 years. You don't go out on probation on 1/36th of your sentence.

PostPosted:Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:57 pm
by Blotus
He's Wesley Goddamn Snipes. If not probation, then some sort of minimum security resort.

PostPosted:Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:45 pm
by Kupek
No way. He's going to a maximum security prison with a really good amatuer boxer, and then the two of them are going to fight it out.

And it's going to tank at the box office.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:34 am
by SineSwiper
Black Lotus wrote:He's Wesley Goddamn Snipes. If not probation, then some sort of minimum security resort.
Club Fed? Of course. That was implied. Nobody goes to PMITA prison except non-famous people.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:01 am
by Tessian
Black Lotus wrote:He's Wesley Goddamn Snipes. If not probation, then some sort of minimum security resort.
Hey, at least he can't make Blade 4 while he's in there ;)

I dunno about him getting preferred treatment... if they were going to do that wouldn't they have just fined him and given him community service? It's clear they wanna make an example of him so I doubt he'll get it THAT easy

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:26 am
by SineSwiper
It wasn't that he couldn't afford the taxes. It was that he refused to pay them. Willie Nelson had a bad accountant and ended up poor, and couldn't pay. They auctioned off his stuff, and he made his famous IRS Tapes. Willie didn't get any jail time because he was willing to pay them if he had the money.

Snipes thought he could get away with NOT paying taxes, just because he was a celebrity. He refused to pay them, therefore he goes directly to jail.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:48 am
by Lox
I'm thinking reality TV: "Snipes in Prison". The money made can go to paying off the taxes. :)

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:12 am
by Zeus
Tessian wrote:Hey, at least he can't make Blade 4 while he's in there ;)
Ha! Yes, thank the Lord

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:30 am
by Kupek
Snipes didn't pay because he thinks his celebrity status exempts him, he actually believes the the federal income tax is unconstitutional.

Also, I maintain that Blade: Trinity is the best of them all because it has hotness and humor in the form of Jessica Biel and Ryan Reynolds. The rest of it is bad, but so are the other Blades.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:05 pm
by Zeus
Kupek wrote:Snipes didn't pay because he thinks his celebrity status exempts him, he actually believes the the federal income tax is unconstitutional.

Also, I maintain that Blade: Trinity is the best of them all because it has hotness and humor in the form of Jessica Biel and Ryan Reynolds. The rest of it is bad, but so are the other Blades.
I had no idea there was a "income tax is unconstitutional" movement in the US. That's just crazy talk.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:20 pm
by Don
The IRS has a list of things you can say to them and they'll slap you for wasting their time. Income tax being unconstitutional shows up there like 10 times in various forums.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:28 pm
by Julius Seeker
Coincidence that the blackest guy in Hollywood is the one to go to jail?

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:29 pm
by EsquE
Dutch wrote:Coincidence that the blackest guy in Hollywood is the one to go to jail?
Yes. Oo

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:44 pm
by Eric
Black Lotus wrote:He's Wesley Goddamn Snipes. If not probation, then some sort of minimum security resort.
New Jack City was a long time ago! ;p

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:07 pm
by Zeus
Dutch wrote:Coincidence that the blackest guy in Hollywood is the one to go to jail?
Yes it is.

Although he makes Eddie Murphy look Scottish in comparison ;-)

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:32 pm
by Tessian
Zeus wrote:I had no idea there was a "income tax is unconstitutional" movement in the US. That's just crazy talk.
Actually there are people like that. I read all about the different shit last night... most of it batshit stupid:

1) The 16th Amendment is either a) unconstitutional b) wasn't properly ratified or c) Ohio wasn't a state (Wrong, wrong, and stupid)

2) Even if the 16th amendment is thought to be right, it doesn't give the government any new power to levy taxes (wtf? yes it does... that's specifically what it does)

3) The 16th amendment fails to define the term "income" and wages should not be included as such. Income is supposed to be defined as profit from doing business whereas wages are (some claim) a trade; you are trading me my time and expertise for money.

Only #3 do I see as having any legs because it may actually have a point. Either way, however, it doesn't matter. The government WILL tax your income and you WILL pay, or you go to jail. If someone actually had the time, energy, etc to somehow challenge and WIN and nullify the 16th amendment it wouldn't' fix anything-- we'd just have 40% sales tax instead of income tax.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:37 pm
by Zeus
That's seriously nuts. I can't believe there's time and money spent trying to argue against income tax in that fashion.

Take away income tax and you'll get the huge sales taxes like you said. But what about things like roads? I hate giving up my money as much as anyone (as you all well know) but there is a certain level we need to give up to better our society. There's gotta be SOMETHING.

You say I don't like to pay for things (which is mostly wrong, but that's not the point here), the people who do this are worse than thieves, they're leeches. They're not even contributing to the society they're taking from.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:44 pm
by SineSwiper
It's not realistic. Even if somebody declared the taxes unconstitutional, there would be an emergency session of Congress, and they would MAKE IT constitutional in a matter of hours.

That's not counting the Supreme Count trying to find some way to interpret the law to fit the natural order of things. Because, like it or not, judges will make decisions on not what the law says but whatever isn't going to rock the boat. If some lunatic said that there's no law on taxes, and by some miracle there isn't a law on it, they'll PRETEND that there is a law and leverage some other similar law/decree/precedent to interpret it that way.

That's also not counting the lower courts doing the same thing.

That's also not counting the prosecutor throwing every other law that he possibly could have violated at him. We had a person get away with murder and admit it afterwards. He served the longest perjury charges possible, even longer than what the murder rap would have brought him.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:48 pm
by Kupek
What I don't understand is how these people expect government to operate. Taxes are basically membership dues. If you're a member of society, you have to pay in to keep it going.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:04 pm
by EsquE
Kupek wrote:What I don't understand is how these people expect government to operate. Taxes are basically membership dues. If you're a member of society, you have to pay in to keep it going.
*wonders how long before Sine starts "taxing" us*



:huh:

PostPosted:Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:18 pm
by Don
The IRS has a page on frivilious reasons to not pay taxes and they'll just slap you with an extra fine for wasting their time to point you toward the page. Pretty much most things that argue about the legitmacy of taxes falls under this category.