The Shrine

McCaughey loses board seat

She was ripped a new one by Jon here:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-a ... view-pt--1

that was an interesting debate. It pretty much boiled down to her totally misinterpreting the one section and assuming very wildly, just like we've seen in the past.

Now we just need Palin to go on Daily Show and get rid of one more disgrace...

I didn't see the whole thing, but I caught the weekly recap, and when Jon was singing Yackety Sax over her as she was frantically pawing through the bill looking for whatever wild claim she'd made I just about lost it. That is why I love Jon Stewart and why he is a comedic genius.

I still think that congress does nothing but provide entertainment in government.

C Span is the most entertaining channel ever.

For Americans, does it not scare you how such inadequate people managed to worm their way up so high?

Tupac Seekur wrote:For Americans, does it not scare you how such inadequate people managed to worm their way up so high?

It's starting to bother the president at least. He's been bending over backwards to try to encourage bipartisanship, and he's finally getting tired of catering to their unreasonable and illogical demands. Democrats are trying to have a reasonable debate on healthcare, and the Republicans respond with FUD, grandstanding, falsehoods, and rogue tactics. What else do you call these town hall attacks, "HE/SHE/IT IS SOCIALIST" bullshit, and speeches in Congress with little logical meaning?

When the Republicans are in power, they don't give a shit about bipartisanship. When the Democrats are in power, they try to care and then are met with political garbage. I guess compromise and agreement are "hippie" concepts that Republicans want nothing to do with.

Hey, the Democrats have been nice since they've had massive control over Congress and the executive branch. And their reward is this fucking bullshit. Now, the Democrats are not going to be nice anymore. It's your fault, Republicans. Enjoy!

SineSwiper wrote:

Tupac Seekur wrote:For Americans, does it not scare you how such inadequate people managed to worm their way up so high?

When the Republicans are in power, they don't give a shit about bipartisanship. When the Democrats are in power, they try to care and then are met with political garbage. I guess compromise and agreement are "hippie" concepts that Republicans want nothing to do with.

I think your idealizing the Democratic party a bit much. They're politicians too. Putting on a "bipartisan attempt" show is an easy thing to do when you're still trying to convince those within your own party to play ball (i.e. the Blue Dog Democrats... who the fuck named them that?).

The Democrats have a lot of inner disagreement on this topic. The Republicans are feeding off of that. And don't get me wrong, I know the Republicans aren't there to help, either. Some of the shit coming from the right lately has been deplorable. I just wanted to point out that the Dem's are doing a good job of shooting themselves in the foot, too.

Everyone is partisan these days. And there are plenty of good, honest, upstanding Republicans out there, with some of them (David Frum, for instance) even managing to get face time. I do, however, think that it's the absolute worst of the Republican party that's front and center, and as a result they're disempowering the rational ones - like my uncle and grandfather, who oppose Obama but certainly aren't down at town halls looking like they want to pop a bunch of caps off at liberalism as a whole. So rational Republicans are having a hard time getting face time, and getting exiled and vilified by the hyper-partisan pro-violence pro-pain wing of their own party. It's all very sad and I plan on staying away from most political protests for the next four to eight years, and not just because a bunch of anti-immigration protesters came to my town a year and a half ago and covered my face with their flags and threatened me with pepper spray and tried to tell the cops that I was trying to "steal" their flag when I brushed it angrily away, either. (It was, bar none, probably either the first or second most appalling thing I've ever seen in my life as an American so far.)

If anyone wants a thought-provoking hypothesis about why the extremist wing of the GOP is so violent and unwilling to debate these days, I urge people to look into Chris Hedges and what he says about how the loss of American manufacturing jobs during NAFTA in the 1990s created a tremendous amount of financial pain, drug abuse, and subsequently a great number of converts to extremist millenialist born-again ideologies over the course of the last decade. Many of the folks who are out screaming will try to do their best to convince you that right-wing moral majority Christianity is eternal, that they are eternal Christians themselves, that any deviation from ideological purity is an aberration, et cetera, and I absolutely believe in Chris' notion that what a lot of those folks aren't telling you is that back in 1999, after they lost the job at the paper plant back in '97, some of them were out with a meth pipe in one hand and a lot of pain in their hearts and souls, prepping themselves for joining a millenialist megachurch in 2001 and having all their sins wiped away - not-so-coincidentally failing to remove the pain I was talking about, which is not manifesting itself as near-homicidal rage against the liberals they feel are responsible for free international trade and globalization and the loss of their way of life.

Now, let me also say I think Chris has been covering wingnut-ism for far too long, and that while his analysis of the subject is thought-provoking, his proposed course of action is just as semi-fascist and as much an abrogation of principle as what the right-wing extremists are doing, as he more or less advocates using the power of the state to absolutely shut these people down, free-speech and otherwise, before they do anything crazy. He's also busily disavowing Obama for being not enough of a liberal, so I've kind of had it with him too. But I'm not sure he's wrong about at least one piece of the puzzle as to the violence in the hearts of the extremist right at present.

I'd like to see her play. Usually people rely on a power game or being good at the net. I've never seen a player who specializes in the lob.

Lobbing actually doesn't work out too well for her.

Edit: Actually, actually, actually, oh well it's already quoted.

Shrinweck wrote:Lobbing actually doesn't actually work out too well for her.

hehehe

I wonder if she is one of these people

I think there should be a congressional Olympics, like the beer Olympics. If they all can't pass then they are automatically fired.