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  • It's official: Cassel >= Brady

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #142481  by Zeus
 Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:27 pm
Now that New England lost, the best record they can have, assuming they win their last 4 games, is 11-5. That's the same record they had last year with Cassel on board. It's actually even more likely they won't even reach that record.

So anyone still have any doubts that Brady is nothing more than a pretty good quarterback who got extremely lucky with the coach and system he was in as opposed to "one of the greatest quarterback in NFL history" like everyone keeps thinking? IMO, he's either the luckiest or second luckiest "great" player I've ever seen next to Emmitt Smith, who had the best line and fullback combo in NFL history for 5+ years clearing the way for him. That's before you even start talking about the QB and receiving combo they had at the same time. He used to rarely run for less than 5 yards before he got touched. I coulda rang up 2000 yards a season behind that line. There's a reason he only had one 100-yard game with Arizona.
Last edited by Zeus on Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

 #142483  by Lox
 Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:26 pm
I've never liked Brady. I think he's a good quarterback, but one of the greatest? No way.

 #142484  by Eric
 Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:34 pm
YO ZEUS, AND I'MA LET YOU FINISH! BUT TOM BRADY IS ONE OF THE GREATEST QBS OF ALL TIME, OF ALL TIME! PEACE!

Also: Saints, lol!

 #142488  by Imakeholesinu
 Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:28 pm
Eric wrote:YO ZEUS, AND I'MA LET YOU FINISH! BUT TOM BRADY IS ONE OF THE GREATEST QBS OF ALL TIME, OF ALL TIME! PEACE!

Also: Saints, lol!
Yeah, Washington fell apart in the 4th Quarter.

 #142490  by Lox
 Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:07 pm
Imakeholesinu wrote:
Eric wrote:YO ZEUS, AND I'MA LET YOU FINISH! BUT TOM BRADY IS ONE OF THE GREATEST QBS OF ALL TIME, OF ALL TIME! PEACE!

Also: Saints, lol!
Yeah, Washington fell apart in the 4th Quarter.
Thus why all Redskins crap is super discounted around here. :)

 #142500  by Flip
 Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:32 pm
Ugh. Please dont bring up how the redskins dropped their 3rd game in a row in the latter part of the game...

Brady, i think, is supposed to be the 'nice' face of the franchise while Belechick is the 'evil' side. But, i seriously think that Brady is just as pure douche and a total asshole. dunno why, just a feeling...

 #142505  by Zeus
 Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:18 am
Eric wrote:YO ZEUS, AND I'MA LET YOU FINISH! BUT TOM BRADY IS ONE OF THE GREATEST QBS OF ALL TIME, OF ALL TIME! PEACE!

Also: Saints, lol!
STOP YELLING, DAMMIT! I CAN HEAR YOUR VERBALLY DIARRHEA JUST FINE :-)

Saints are FUCKING LUCKY to be undefeated right now (about as lucky as Sasuke is to be alive :-). WOW Washington blew that one. I thought after they trounced the Pats last week that the Saints were almost gonna cruise to the end and it would take a great performance by another team to stop their perfect season. But the pathetic Skins who make the Bills look like a powerhouse? No doubt the Saints were overlooking this game and were still coming down from the high of wasting the Pats the week before. Maybe this will wake them up and they'll regain their focus for the last 4 weeks.

Wouldn't it be great to have two 16-0 teams in one season?

 #142514  by Lox
 Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:14 am
I don't think we'll have 16-0 teams. If they're smart, they'll start benching key players as soon as they nab home field in the playoffs which means they would possibly lose a few end games. Let those guys rest for the bigger challenge in the playoffs and SuperBowl. What's more important - a 16-0 or a SuperBowl ring? I'd go with the ring, personally. :) I'm hoping the Colts and the Saints learned from the Patriots mistake when they lost to the Giants.

 #142516  by Eric
 Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:31 am
Well if they both go 16-0 and they both meet in the Super Bowl, SOMEBODY's gotta win. :P

 #142517  by Lox
 Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:11 am
It'll be the team that rests their players. :)

 #142526  by Zeus
 Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:19 am
Lox wrote:I don't think we'll have 16-0 teams. If they're smart, they'll start benching key players as soon as they nab home field in the playoffs which means they would possibly lose a few end games. Let those guys rest for the bigger challenge in the playoffs and SuperBowl. What's more important - a 16-0 or a SuperBowl ring? I'd go with the ring, personally. :) I'm hoping the Colts and the Saints learned from the Patriots mistake when they lost to the Giants.
We went through this a couple of years ago with the Pats. As a coach in a competitive sport with competitive players, you can't in good conscious eliminate the possibility of a perfect season to rest your players regardless of how much logical sense it makes. You can't take that away from the team to be a part of history like that. Why does anyone remember the '72 Dolphins? What is by far and away the defining moment of Don Shula's career and what started his legend as a coach? The perfect season. Do you know who won the '73 Superbowl (I think it was the start of the Steelers' 4-year run)? Or the '71 Superbowl? Probably not. But nearly everyone, even non-football fans, know about the '72 Dolphins.

In a lot of ways, that perfect season is just as important as the Superbowl win. Taking that away from the players is a huge injustice

 #142530  by Lox
 Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:58 pm
Except everyone that I know looks at the Patriots as the team that had a 16-0 and then failed when it really came down to it and they laugh about it. Do teams want to be remembered as the one that choked when it counted most? I don't think so. This is a game of strategy and planning as much as it is skill on the field. If some players don't understand that, then they need to learn it.

 #142531  by Eric
 Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:59 pm
Yes, but they're still remembered, and that organization won 3 Super Bowls, so they get a pass. :P

 #142532  by Lox
 Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:40 pm
I suppose the 3 wins counts for something. :) But that's all they get for choking from me.