Hey, Americans, stay the FUCK out of my country!

[Zeus]

American lobby groups have reached multiple other countries with a "treaty" to change copyright laws

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/0 ... sions.html

Your fucking groups need to stay out of my country. The fact that they veiled this as a "treaty" to keep it out of the public eye just goes to show you how shitty our government up here is. But it all started with the Americans.

[SineSwiper]

Fine. Then get your conservative fucktards out of MY country blasting Canadian healthcare.

[ManaMan]

I thought.... you were telling me not to go there on vacation. You were almost a jerk.

[Oracle]

Fine. Then get your conservative fucktards out of MY country blasting Canadian healthcare.

Honestly, worry about your own health insurance and health sector lobbyists before worrying about our conservative coming to the US to bash Canadian healthcare. That is what is giving your political ecosystem the justification to fight universal healthcare. It's all about the money.

Funny, seems the core of these types of problems tends to be American lobbying :p

[Mental]

Don't look at me. We're not happy about the fact that corporatism seems to have decided en masse that it should rule the world either. Did you hear about the Supreme Court ruling? Do you have ANY idea how angry a lot of us are down here about that too?

[Julius Seeker]

Not all Canadians feel that people who don't want to pay are still entitled to taking a product. It undermines the market integrity.

On the otherhand; there should be an update to abandonmedia laws; for example, if a company fails to make their product available to a market for a certain time period, then the product can legally be copied and distributed at only a free pricepoint (though copies that are legal can still be sold by distributers and resale).

[SineSwiper]

Don't look at me. We're not happy about the fact that corporatism seems to have decided en masse that it should rule the world either. Did you hear about the Supreme Court ruling? Do you have ANY idea how angry a lot of us are down here about that too?

Again, I ask, what the fuck has the US Chamber of Commerce being doing for the past 15 years? The decision was constitutionally justified, and it didn't change much.

Honestly, worry about your own health insurance and health sector lobbyists before worrying about our conservative coming to the US to bash Canadian healthcare. That is what is giving your political ecosystem the justification to fight universal healthcare. It's all about the money.

Actually, it's more about politics than money this time. Sure, money has been poured into ads and politicians over this, but for once, the Republicans would have been voting no on every bill that passes through the Senate anyway. So, why has nothing been passed?



That. That's why. This is why even though every good bill has already passed the House, it fails in the Senate. This is why Obama said three times in his SOTU speech that "House has passed Bill X", but it's still waiting in the Senate. This is NOT democracy! There is no majority vote here. If everything requires 60 votes, and if the other 40 people wants to consistently vote NO NO NO on everything, including billing banning provisions protecting RAPE, just about nothing is going to get passed.

I wish Obama would get out of his "bipartisan" dreamland. The Republicans DO NOT WANT YOU IN THE CAR! And it's YOUR CAR!!

[Mental]

Again, I ask, what the fuck has the US Chamber of Commerce being doing for the past 15 years? The decision was constitutionally justified, and it didn't change much.

Corporations are not people. They do not deserve the same First Amendment rights as individuals, especially when it comes to election time. It's a loophole and a dodge, in my opinion.

[Eric]

*Drives tank down Zeus' street*

[SineSwiper]

Corporations are not people. They do not deserve the same First Amendment rights as individuals, especially when it comes to election time. It's a loophole and a dodge, in my opinion.

I do not agree with corporate personhood, but that is currently the precedent. I would rather they just get rid of that to fix a lot of problems, but there's a lot of history around corporate personhood, such as the right for corporations to sue each other, that might be justified.

In other words, currently, corporation = person, and person has 1st Amendment rights, so those rights were being denied with the political ad case.

[Mental]

Corporations are not people. They do not deserve the same First Amendment rights as individuals, especially when it comes to election time. It's a loophole and a dodge, in my opinion.

I do not agree with corporate personhood, but that is currently the precedent. I would rather they just get rid of that to fix a lot of problems, but there's a lot of history around corporate personhood, such as the right for corporations to sue each other, that might be justified.

In other words, currently, corporation = person, and person has 1st Amendment rights, so those rights were being denied with the political ad case.

I agree. Corporations are not "persons". They are responsibility-shunting legal entities made up of many people. Get rid of the entire thing altogether.