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iPad

PostPosted:Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:38 pm
by Flip
It's basically just a large iPhone and, sadly, nothing more. No front-facing camera, no multitasking, no flash. Wait, and no phone calls. So it's basically just a large iPod Touch.

PostPosted:Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:57 pm
by Anarky
Worse name ever...

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From Twitter (for what it's worth, #iTampon is apparently the number three trending topic on the site.):

tjakabon: "It surfs the web AND stops the bleeding."

Gelatobaby: And you can use the giant QWERTY keyboard to get your period on the #iPad!

CarolBlymire: Is #apple making an iPad for light-flow days? Just wondering...

Trish1981: iPad? Really? All I can say is, I'm sticking with Always, bitches.

tremendousnews: So I can say "That chick is on her iPad" and not be called a pig? Thank you Apple.

melissapierce: iPad has changed "the conversation" from how we use tech in context to how we use tech as Kotex. (who named this thing?)

TwittsMcGee: I haven't heard this many period jokes since I was forced to watch The View last month. #iPad

kathycacace: Okay, just one more. The iPad: protecting your data from embarrassing incidents.

Johnpapa: "64 gig iPad will forever be known as the heavy flow model."

PostPosted:Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:58 pm
by Lox
The only thing I like about it is all of the jokes surrounding the name. :)

PostPosted:Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:45 pm
by Flip
A list of things lacking from PCWorld:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/187962/a ... takes.html

If you are looking for a stylish e-book reader and a coffee table web surfing device then im sure you would be really happy with this thing, but i suppose people are disappointed that it isnt as groundbreaking. I probably would rather invest in a fully loaded netbook for the same price. That would offer the same portability but more functionality for the things i use.

PostPosted:Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:05 pm
by Julius Seeker
Next year's model will come with wings.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:42 am
by SineSwiper
Flip wrote:If you are looking for a stylish e-book reader and a coffee table web surfing device then im sure you would be really happy with this thing, but i suppose people are disappointed that it isnt as groundbreaking. I probably would rather invest in a fully loaded netbook for the same price. That would offer the same portability but more functionality for the things i use.
I'm honestly surprised that there isn't an army of zealots defending this thing as being the most innovative device in years. Where are those historical revisionists claiming that Apple invented the e-book reader or the netbook?

After all, there were plenty of zealots defending the Macbook Air. And many others that claim that the iPod was the first device that played music on a portable hard drive, or that the iPhone was the first smartphone.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:30 am
by Julius Seeker
I think that's probably your imagination Sine. The zealots I recall are all anti-mac; and you're one of them (there's several here) It's impossible to even mention a mac product on this forum without you people coming in and spouting off a load of illogically fanatical product hate crap. It would be nice to have threads discussing the mobile industry without bashing the iPhone.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:27 am
by Oracle
Julius Seeker wrote:It would be nice to have threads discussing the mobile industry without bashing the iPhone.
I'm not a big Mac fan, but I acknowledge their products have a certain draw, and I actually like the iPhone (but the networks can take their iPhone plans and stick them up their asses).

I hate the Mac fanbois, however. There's no talking to some of them, they blindly push apple products, and use the tagline 'they don't get viruses' to justify the extra expense. I hate the 'trendy' culture that Mac brings to the IT world. Of course, not all Mac supporters are like this, but these are the ones that make me want to distance myself from 'Apple culture'.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:14 am
by Kupek
I think it's a good idea, I see use for it, and I might buy one when I graduate and get a real job.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:20 am
by Imakeholesinu
Does anyone else see a pattern here?

iPod
iPhone
iPad

Steve jobs wants us to know that "iP".

PostPosted:Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:36 am
by Flip
Multi task is just too big of a deal for me to ignore. I've played around with the GF's iPod Touch and its web browser is just fine for looking something up real fast but, since it doesnt even have multiple tabs, you cant spend a few hours on it browsing the web while checking e-mail and having a gchat window up. Goodluck listening to music while playing a game...

I dont think Apple will ever implement multi-tasking. For it to have a 10 hour battery life, you cant change the forumla. If multiple things ran at a time the batt life would shrink down to 3 hours and the iPhone would be practically useless since it already drains at a ridiculous pace and needs charging in the middle of the day. I really like how fast the iPod Touch is, but i guess that makes sense since the processor can dedicate all its energy to what you have up at the moment.

I've been wanting to get rid of my old laptop and instead buy an awesome desktop for gaming with a netbook type device to fart around on. I thought maybe this thing would suffice as the second half of my plan, but now i dont think it can. At the very least, i wanted something that can hook up to the TV so i can stream Netflix Watch It Now stuff like i currently do with the laptop.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:45 am
by Kupek
The iPhone has multitasking. What they disallow is third party applicaitons from backgrounding themselves - no multitasking with third party apps, but you can, say, listen to music and surf the web.

I see the iPad as a living room computer. It lives on the coffee table, next to the couch and in front of the tv. You pick it up when you want to look up small things, read the newspaper, read a book or watch some internet videos. It looks promising for that. I know netbooks can fill that functionality, but I think the iPad has promise to do it better.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:00 am
by Flip
Kupek wrote:The iPhone has multitasking. What they disallow is third party applicaitons from backgrounding themselves - no multitasking with third party apps, but you can, say, listen to music and surf the web.

I see the iPad as a living room computer. It lives on the coffee table, next to the couch and in front of the tv. You pick it up when you want to look up small things, read the newspaper, read a book or watch some internet videos. It looks promising for that. I know netbooks can fill that functionality, but I think the iPad has promise to do it better.
I def agree with that. The GF is always on the couch with her iPod Touch while we watch TV, playing casual games, looking up something, etc. A bigger screen and the addition of reading magazines is pretty cool. I could see myself having one around the house for simple tasks like this so you dont have boot up an actual computer and netbooks are not made for reading periodicals. iPad has possibilities and would be fun, but maybe not a necessity. It simply doesnt replace anything, which is what i was looking for. I dont like having a big laptop, yes it technically is portable, but i never move it or its a big pain in the ass when i do, so i was hoping this would function as a media machine and satellite to a desktop. Without flash, i cant watch shit on this thing or hook it up to a TV.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:07 am
by Lox
Kupek wrote:The iPhone has multitasking. What they disallow is third party applicaitons from backgrounding themselves - no multitasking with third party apps, but you can, say, listen to music and surf the web.

I see the iPad as a living room computer. It lives on the coffee table, next to the couch and in front of the tv. You pick it up when you want to look up small things, read the newspaper, read a book or watch some internet videos. It looks promising for that. I know netbooks can fill that functionality, but I think the iPad has promise to do it better.
The image in my head is of those data pads they carried in Star Trek (especially DS9) that you could do anything with.

PostPosted:Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:53 am
by SineSwiper
Imakeholesinu wrote:Does anyone else see a pattern here?

iPod
iPhone
iPad

Steve jobs wants us to know that "iP".
iPod - Trademark legitimately acquired.
iPhone - Stolen from Cisco
iPad - Trying to be stolen from Fujitsu

So, their IP is not actually their own.
Kupek wrote:The iPhone has multitasking. What they disallow is third party applicaitons from backgrounding themselves - no multitasking with third party apps, but you can, say, listen to music and surf the web.

I see the iPad as a living room computer. It lives on the coffee table, next to the couch and in front of the tv. You pick it up when you want to look up small things, read the newspaper, read a book or watch some internet videos. It looks promising for that. I know netbooks can fill that functionality, but I think the iPad has promise to do it better.
The iPad better have true multitasking this time. They might be able to get away with that with the iPhone, but the iPad is a real computer.

Also, has anybody looked at the pictures of this thing in front of a real person?

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I mean, it looks like a really short midget is holding an iPhone. Or one of these:

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Not to say that it's a bad design. It actually looks pretty cool.

However, knowing Apple, they will charge an unreasonable amount of money for the first six months (for a buggy device that won't be able to do basic features) to make money off of the zealots, and then lower the price while apologizing to their fans and give them $200 gift certificates so that they can buy even more Apple products. That's just how they roll.

PostPosted:Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:33 pm
by Anarky
If Google and HTC team up and build a tablet I'll get that. After being on my Droid phone for the last 2 months I can't see going back to a non-multitasking device

PostPosted:Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:28 pm
by Imakeholesinu
SineSwiper wrote:
Imakeholesinu wrote:Does anyone else see a pattern here?

iPod
iPhone
iPad

Steve jobs wants us to know that "iP".
iPod - Trademark legitimately acquired.
iPhone - Stolen from Cisco
iPad - Trying to be stolen from Fujitsu

So, their IP is not actually their own.
Kupek wrote:The iPhone has multitasking. What they disallow is third party applicaitons from backgrounding themselves - no multitasking with third party apps, but you can, say, listen to music and surf the web.

I see the iPad as a living room computer. It lives on the coffee table, next to the couch and in front of the tv. You pick it up when you want to look up small things, read the newspaper, read a book or watch some internet videos. It looks promising for that. I know netbooks can fill that functionality, but I think the iPad has promise to do it better.
The iPad better have true multitasking this time. They might be able to get away with that with the iPhone, but the iPad is a real computer.

Also, has anybody looked at the pictures of this thing in front of a real person?

Image

I mean, it looks like a really short midget is holding an iPhone. Or one of these:

Image

Not to say that it's a bad design. It actually looks pretty cool.

However, knowing Apple, they will charge an unreasonable amount of money for the first six months (for a buggy device that won't be able to do basic features) to make money off of the zealots, and then lower the price while apologizing to their fans and give them $200 gift certificates so that they can buy even more Apple products. That's just how they roll.
You missed my pun. Steve wants us to know he pees.

PostPosted:Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:32 pm
by Lox
Anarky wrote:If Google and HTC team up and build a tablet I'll get that. After being on my Droid phone for the last 2 months I can't see going back to a non-multitasking device
Agreed.

PostPosted:Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:32 pm
by Tessian
Anarky wrote:If Google and HTC team up and build a tablet I'll get that. After being on my Droid phone for the last 2 months I can't see going back to a non-multitasking device
What about a MSI tablet that runs off of Android?
http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/94 ... lternative

As for the iPad itself, as much as I dislike apple products even I was disappointed. I expected a netbook with a touchscreen, not the iPod Touch XL. A fully stocked netbook would be much better than this thing.

PostPosted:Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:07 pm
by Shellie
Pee-Wee Gets an IPad

Thanks Mully :)

PostPosted:Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:43 pm
by Zeus
Seraphina wrote:Pee-Wee Gets an IPad

Thanks Mully :)
That's fucking hilarious

PostPosted:Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:31 pm
by Mully
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PostPosted:Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:15 pm
by Andrew, Killer Bee
I'm currently getting my head around objective C and Cocoa with an eye to developing an iPad app. Memory management! I haven't had to deal with memory management since university!

XCode is a really, really lovely development environment, and Cocoa & AppKit are stupendously great APIs. Most of my UI development experience is in web frontend stuff — what the libraries deliver for free when developing local Mac applications is crazy.

PostPosted:Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:24 pm
by Flip
any ideas on what your app will do?

PostPosted:Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:29 pm
by Kupek
Andrew, Killer Bee wrote:Memory management! I haven't had to deal with memory management since university!
http://github.com/scotts/streamflow/blo ... ow.c#L1175

Even my current project is basically all memory management tricks. It's all I do!

PostPosted:Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:34 pm
by Andrew, Killer Bee
Flip wrote:any ideas on what your app will do?
Nope! Just trying to get my head around the development tools at the moment.
Kupek wrote:Even my current project is basically all memory management tricks. It's all I do!
I can only smile, nod politely and do my best to hide my terror at the stuff you do these days. I've been too long spoiled by very high-level languages.