The Shrine

So the a judge just fucked over the internet royally. I can no longer access weather.com from AT&T dsl. Did those fucks start filtering already?

Hahaha I doubt it... all the judge really said is that the FCC lacks the authority to penalize a company for not adhering to Net Neutrality. I don't think that necessarily means that NN is dead and unenforceable, it just means we can't rely on the FCC to enforce it. It'll be a while before any company tries to test that theory...

It's important to note that the judge did not rule against net neutrality. Rather, the judge ruled that the FCC does not have the legal authority to enforce such regulations. Here's a succinct analysis from a lawyer who specializes in tech startups: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1245215

Ok i can agree with the analysis, but the question remains then who does have express authority? No one?

I believe that the ruling puts it back on the ISPs to police themselves. Basically it seems no government entity can tell the providers what they can and cannot do.

So in China, they filter content, in America, they will start filtering content. Where are the conservatives when you need them?

Its total bullshit. Its like a phone company blocking certain numbers because they dont think i should be phone sexing it up all the time.

I'm paying for a service, what i do with my bandwidth should be my prerogative.

Flip wrote:Ok i can agree with the analysis, but the question remains then who does have express authority? No one?

Congress. If they pass a law saying that the FCC is allowed to regulate it, then they can.

Kupek wrote:

Flip wrote:Ok i can agree with the analysis, but the question remains then who does have express authority? No one?

Congress. If they pass a law saying that the FCC is allowed to regulate it, then they can.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Basically, the FCC does not have the authority to enforce net neutrality.....yet. That certainly doesn't mean that won't change. It will all depend on the public desire to get such a bill pushed through (ie. can it overrule the very rich lobbies.....)

All members of congress should be voted out and lobbying should be outlawed.

Imakeholesinu wrote:So the a judge just fucked over the internet royally. I can no longer access weather.com from AT&T dsl. Did those fucks start filtering already?

Heh, that's a stretch of logic there. Because AT&T was just waiting for the word to start blocking millions of people from accessing the weather.

But, why? Did they actually build that Weather Dominator, and they don't want people to know the weather it will cause? I thought Comcast was the one working on the Weather Dominator. Fuck, this is confusing. Let me ponder this for a while.

Imakeholesinu wrote:I believe that the ruling puts it back on the ISPs to police themselves. Basically it seems no government entity can tell the providers what they can and cannot do.

So in China, they filter content, in America, they will start filtering content. Where are the conservatives when you need them?

Yes, because P2P traffic shaping leads to content filtering. Exactly the same thing, really. And trying to stop this totally justifies putting in Congressmen who favor big businesses, who were the ones who wanted the traffic shaping in the first place.

Imakeholesinu wrote:All members of congress should be voted out and lobbying should be outlawed.

All of them? Really? Even that one guy from New York? All because a judge said that the FCC can't enforce "guidelines" that they put out, guidelines which Comcast and the rest are following anyway?