The Shrine

Sad day.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/05/us/obit-s ... index.html

Whoa.

Very sad =(

He had one of the best heads for business in the last 30 years; it's not just his keynotes, but putting together a powerful and capable team. He found incredible success not just once, but twice, first with a brand from scratch, in a garage to a company worth billions. Then again from a stiffly declined and dying brand with a severely damaged reputation, and made it into the most highly valued company in the entire world in a matter of a few years.

He leaves this world helping a lot of young investors with a whole lot of extra cash over the past 8 years; and some incredible products which have left an everlasting impression on the electronics world. It is really too bad we won't ever know where he would have taken the company in the future; but the company and team in place now will be his legacy.

Yeah I kind of knew something was up when they announced the new iPhone and he wasn't there.

Not sure what your facebook status updates have looked like, but some people I know have flipped the fuck out.

Maddox from the greatest page on the internet summarize it well:
"Everyone hyperventilating, repeat after me: I am not defined by the products I buy. My computer is not a part of my identity. My computer is a tool. And like all tools, it's only useful if I make it useful. A brand is not a lifestyle. I don't owe gratitude to a billionaire I helped create. Steve Jobs was a business man who charged exhorbitantly for his products. He didn't do us any favors. He didn't make us. We made him."

I have seen a lot of condolence messages, but I think this is normal for anyone who is of celebrity status - whether they be a well known company CEO, an actor, a singer, a politician, or other. Steve Jobs happened to be a leading celebrity and icon at the time of his death.

To make assumptions as to why people mourn, and then make fun of them based on those assumptions, is not "spoken best" or in any way a form of wisdom. It is just being a dick. No arguments in regard to Maddox on this assertion need to be made.

That isn't so much a criticism of people mourning Jobs as much as it's a criticism to teenagers freaking out over a guy that made their latest status symbols. People who are actually sad over a passing don't go on social media first thing.

No, he's just being a dick. There's no reason to doubt a person's sincerity in mourning or condolences, because they are doing it on a social networking website. It is also both absurd and plain dickish to conclude they're just doing it because the person "made their latest status symbols".

There are plenty of people who post messages of mourning at the death of a loved one, and it is often wide spread with the breaking news of celebrities; even when those celebrities didn't make "their latest status symbols". Another recent example of this is the recently deceased Canadian Federal opposition leader Jack Layton (In addition to Liz Taylor and Michael Jackson); there was a large outpour on social networking sites, and again, no reason to doubt the sincerity of that mourning, or those condolences, no matter how intense they were.

I....agree with Seeker.

*goes to wash self*

But so few of these people actually have any kind of connection to him past what his company sold. It's sad and I'm not trying to take away from that but mourning someone in this fashion just seems hollow to me. Mourning shouldn't be a hip trend and that's what a large public outcry for someone like this via social media feels like to me.

Apple should have tried to "disconnect" from him sooner. He was trying to get somebody to replace him during the conventions, and that guy was introducing the Apple 4S. But, the lack of a iPhone 5 announcement really drove stock down. If it wasn't for that, Jobs' death would have done the same thing.

Gates broke off from Microsoft long ago, and Wendy's stopped using Dave Thomas as a spokesman well before he died.