The Shrine

I thought the individual mandate would have screwed over the whole thing, apparently not.

Super excited about this.

This is good news for me. I need an alternative to the $500/month plan that I've been forced into because I'm un-insurable. Hopefully this is a first step to fixing up the gigantic cluster fuck that is the medical industry in this country.

I'm enjoying the few bitter republicans on my facebook feed kicking and screaming. If they think Romney... the person who basically did RomneyCare in Michigan is going to repeal it, they're gonna have a bad time.

I could see Romney as a president repealing it if he got a chance. He has to carry that torch for his party. I must say how completely surprised I am that the Supreme Court didn't over-step themselves and strike it down.

Yeah, good thing we don't pay for our health care on our tax returns!

*checks 2011 tax filing* Oh, shit hold on a sec......

50 years ago today; when we first got public healthcare in Canada, we went through something very similar to what happened in the US with the Tea Party, if not worse; consider that this was at the height of the cold war - the biggest examples we had for public systems were essentially from the enemy. It was a brutal fight in the beginning; but medicare won in the end, and helped define Canada.



Oh, and Happy Canada Day =)

Zeus wrote:Yeah, good thing we don't pay for our health care on our tax returns!

*checks 2011 tax filing* Oh, shit hold on a sec......

Wait, is that true? Is that how your public health care system is funded, at the end of the year when you file your taxes? Is it considered when you have have withholdings from your paychecks?

Flip wrote:

Zeus wrote:Yeah, good thing we don't pay for our health care on our tax returns!

*checks 2011 tax filing* Oh, shit hold on a sec......

Wait, is that true? Is that how your public health care system is funded, at the end of the year when you file your taxes? Is it considered when you have have withholdings from your paychecks?

It's included in our payroll withholdings. But a few years ago, our "liberal" government in Ontario (the province; for you Americans, that's equivalent to a state up here :-) introduced a scaled "health tax" where we pay anywhere from $0 to $900 a year for our health care depending on the taxable income earned. It's done on the provincial return so the amounts are different depending on which province you live in since our health care is actually administered provincially, not federally. It just so happens that the majority of provincial returns (aside from Quebec....stupid French) are filed concurrently with our federal returns (and reviewed/audited by the federal agency) so to most people, they don't actually know the difference between the federal and provincial portion of their tax returns. To them, it's just one return.

The provinces pay the bulk of the health care cost, with the federal government always trying to weasel out of its share of the cost. The ministries of health in each province easily are the largest ministries, as they get a very large percentage of our tax dollars.

Romney booed after vowing to kill the Obama healthcare initiative.

Good lord, know your audience. Make the rounds to African American communities so you don't look like an asshole but Jesus Christ the NAACP? Are you high?

Not to say that US's version is going to be anything like Canada's, but how is Canada's healthcare over there? I hear a lot of crap from my Republican ex-Canadian co-workers, but it's clearly one-sided. (You know how some liberal Americans bitch about how shitty their conservative country is and threaten to move to Canada? Well, there's some conservative Canadians that bitch about how liberal their country is and threaten to move to the States.)

SineSwiper wrote:Not to say that US's version is going to be anything like Canada's, but how is Canada's healthcare over there? I hear a lot of crap from my Republican ex-Canadian co-workers, but it's clearly one-sided. (You know how some liberal Americans bitch about how shitty their conservative country is and threaten to move to Canada? Well, there's some conservative Canadians that bitch about how liberal their country is and threaten to move to the States.)

It's decent but not perfect. Certainly better than having nothing, that's for sure