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  • ISP will now warn you for illegal downloads

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #158239  by Don
 Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:27 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/tech/web/ ... hpt=hp_bn5

Now let's not even get into the moral question or copyright or how enforceable/circumventable this whole thing is. My question is, wouldn't this end up just showing a notice to basically everyone that has some remote idea of how to use the Internet assuming the filter system actually works?

There is this artifact in Hunter X Hunter that can diagnose someone instantly and tell them whether they're perfectly fine or do they have some ailment that requires seeing a doctor. I'm pretty sure the artifact is intended to be a joke as this artifact would simply always tell you that you need to see a doctor if it exists in real life for about 99.9% of the population. You can do the exact same thing here. I don't even need to analyze your data usage. I can simply say if you're doing more than X amount of data per month you're probably downloading something illegal and display one of those warning, and it'll even generate even false positives so I can make some $35 clearing them up!
 #158243  by SineSwiper
 Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:48 pm
Private trackers. Seedbox. STFU.

Anything else would be like going to Asta La Vista, like NOW, for cracks. Public trackers are so ten years ago.
 #158245  by Eric
 Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:38 am
"The Internet provider is delivering the message, but the legwork is being done by the copyright owners, which will monitor peer-to-peer networks such as BitTorrent."

Annnnd this is why I switched back to the old school IRC channels and FTPs. :)
 #158252  by Zeus
 Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:29 am
Thank you, Canada :-)

Although I'm sure we'll be there in the next couple of years
 #158268  by Don
 Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:45 pm
Honestly I think they can just pop a message like: "You're connected to the Internet, you're probably doing something illegal with it so don't even think about it."

I wouldn't mind if they just have a broadband tax kind of like Canada have a tax on CD-Rs.

Honestly if I was really trying to catch people with these things I'd just watch for the guys who are using a high amount of bandwidth while doing stuff I can't figure out what, because that's almost certain to be illegal. Don't worry about the guys that are just on BT openly because you can just nail whoever's providing the central service and those guys usually won't be savvy enough to figure out an alternative anyway.
 #158279  by Zeus
 Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:11 pm
Eric wrote:Seriously, I must go through a cool 70-100GB a month.
People who have Netflix will easily exceed that. 100GB a month will soon be light usage
 #158282  by Shrinweck
 Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:33 pm
Zeus wrote:
Eric wrote:Seriously, I must go through a cool 70-100GB a month.
People who have Netflix will easily exceed that. 100GB a month will soon be light usage
Yeah I turn off HD whenever I can with my Netflix instant watch. That shit is insane. My old apartment had a 500kb/s cap and a Netflix Instant video on HD would stop to buffer from time to time. I go through about 200gb a month between streaming, online gaming services, and other stuff it gets eaten up quickly. AT&T still hasn't bothered to put in the necessary infrastructure in my area to monitor my bandwidth usage, so, well, fuck it. Living large.
 #158283  by Zeus
 Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:25 pm
Shrinweck wrote:
Zeus wrote:
Eric wrote:Seriously, I must go through a cool 70-100GB a month.
People who have Netflix will easily exceed that. 100GB a month will soon be light usage
Yeah I turn off HD whenever I can with my Netflix instant watch. That shit is insane. My old apartment had a 500kb/s cap and a Netflix Instant video on HD would stop to buffer from time to time. I go through about 200gb a month between streaming, online gaming services, and other stuff it gets eaten up quickly. AT&T still hasn't bothered to put in the necessary infrastructure in my area to monitor my bandwidth usage, so, well, fuck it. Living large.
In Canada, we have more than enough infrastructure in all urban areas to support whatever. What we have are insanely low caps of 60GB unless you pay up like $60+ a month for internet.

Gotta love them government-supported oligopolies
 #158284  by bovine
 Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:46 pm
I still have no idea what I'm doing with my internet here in Quebec, but I'm with Videotron (best name ever) and I'm paying in the $40 zone and have no cap.
 #158287  by Zeus
 Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:47 pm
bovine wrote:I still have no idea what I'm doing with my internet here in Quebec, but I'm with Videotron (best name ever) and I'm paying in the $40 zone and have no cap.
Quebec, for better or worse, ain't a part of Canada :-)

I'm paying $35 with no cap with Primus, which is actually Bell's service choked by the assholes. You can get it but it's forced down Bell's and Rogers' throats to wholesale it and it sure ain't top-speed internet, either
 #158288  by SineSwiper
 Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:16 pm
Zeus wrote:
bovine wrote:I still have no idea what I'm doing with my internet here in Quebec, but I'm with Videotron (best name ever) and I'm paying in the $40 zone and have no cap.
Quebec, for better or worse, ain't a part of Canada :-)

I'm paying $35 with no cap with Primus, which is actually Bell's service choked by the assholes. You can get it but it's forced down Bell's and Rogers' throats to wholesale it and it sure ain't top-speed internet, either
That's a cap. It's just a cap further downstream.
 #158298  by Zeus
 Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:33 am
SineSwiper wrote:
Zeus wrote:
bovine wrote:I still have no idea what I'm doing with my internet here in Quebec, but I'm with Videotron (best name ever) and I'm paying in the $40 zone and have no cap.
Quebec, for better or worse, ain't a part of Canada :-)

I'm paying $35 with no cap with Primus, which is actually Bell's service choked by the assholes. You can get it but it's forced down Bell's and Rogers' throats to wholesale it and it sure ain't top-speed internet, either
That's a cap. It's just a cap further downstream.
But at least I'm insisting on the reach-around. Sure I have to wait a little longer but I can still grab whatever I want without fear of paying more. Not much else we can do in this horrible regulatory environment we have in this country (at least personal-use downloading is legal...for now)

And I'm a patient man. There's nothing I need NOW. I don't have to watch Dexter at 10:30pm on Sundays, I can wait until 11 or 11:30 (or even the next day if the release I prefer ain't available on TorrentDay yet). It's not like I don't have nearly 1,000 DVDs/Blu Rays and over 2,500 games to keep me occupied, not to mention the 1.5TB or so of stuff on my HDDs or the hundreds of burned data DVDs full of shit