The Shrine

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>*El Cid rolls over in his grave*</div>

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>Is there supposed to be a link here?</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Just testing people's knowledge of history in regards to Spain's new leader.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>He's a Socialist. Do you have a problem with that?</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Try again, smarty. And you know I don't like Socialists.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.falkland-malvinas.com/Detall ... >Socialist Spain returns to the EU flock</a>

Read the news, dumbass!</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Uh, I don't think he was contradicting the fact that the new Spanish President is a socialist, but that's not what he was referencing.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>I think "try again" was a contradiction.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Look everyone! I told you Sine was an idiot! He has no clue as to what I'm talking about. HINT : my original message has NOTHING to do with non-dictatorial communism (Socialism).</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Yes, but he meant that you guessed wrong, not that what you said was factually incorrect.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Yes, I know that. I knew that you didn't like it, so I said something.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>El Cid is like Spain's George Washington. El Cid kicked out the Moors. Just commenting on how those bombings shifted from what was once a close race to a land slide.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Ferdinand and Isabella drove out the Moors during the time of Colombus, and "Cid" is a Moorish title used during the Middle Ages which means "Warchief".</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://lilt.ilstu.edu/bekurtz/elcid.htm ... cid.htm</a>

It means "Champion". And you're right, it was the royal family. El Cid helped weaken the Moors. Instead of George Washington of Spain, he was more of a mercenary.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.awerty.com/elcid2.html">El Cid</a>

You're an idiot, El Cid is a famous Spanish folklore tale/poem thing.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't see how correcting and clarifying some historcal details written in this thread makes me an idiot, but you calling me one does make you sound very ignorant and foolish.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>The name "El Cid" was probably derived from Moorish, but I will read your link in a bit. This is a bit history I have never come accross before.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>its just funny when you try to correct people about El Cid while admittingly knowing nothing about El Cid. In the legend, El Cid did win battles against the Moors so why even try to correct G-Man?</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Because it is fact that Ferdinand and Isabella drove out the Moores, and it is also fact that the word Cid is originally Moorish. I don't see what is so hard about that to understand.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>Nothing about that is difficult to understand. What's hard to understand is why you felt the need to contradict G-Man when he was technically right. You would have known he was correct if you knew the legend, thus sometimes you should shut your mouth instead of trying to be 'smarty pants'.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>You're on drugs, G-man agreed with me, and his link and well known Spanish history also agrees with what was said.</div>

<div style='font: bold 10pt ; text-align: left; '>I find it funny that you toss communism into the definition of socialism. I'm not saying it isn't true, but I'm sure you put it there to inspire knee-jerk reactions in people who think communism is "evil"</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>communism isn't evil (although it's fun to pretend it is) it's just stupid. Great on paper but poor in real life</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>They are actually two different things.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>so·cial·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ssh-lzm)
n.

1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.


com·mu·nism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kmy-nzm)
n.

1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
Communism

2. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.tows.cc/cgi-bin/rpgboard/vie ... html">Deja Vu</a>

The story you've just seen is true. The names were changed to protect the innocent.</div>

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>I thought it was Charles Martel...or was he the El Cid you refer to? I don't know if I'd call him the Spanish George Washington though...</div>