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George W Bush godwins. The election is over, people. Kerry wins by default.
PostPosted:Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:06 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="
http://www.georgewbush.com/blog/archive ... 1194">Well, duh, people are pissed off...</a>
George W Bush godwins. The election is over, people. Kerry wins by default.</div>
PostPosted:Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:08 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>?</div>
PostPosted:Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:10 pm
by Ganath
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Sine is citing "Godwin's Law", which basically says that as soon as someone makes a Nazi comparison, all further comments by said person become completely irrelevant and the debate is over (unless you'd call a flame war a debate).</div>
PostPosted:Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:45 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>'eh, that little part of it was unneeded and I don't like it either, but it wasn't a major point or anything</div>
Actually, the point of the video was that John Kerry's supporters had made the comparison of Bush to Hitler... not the other way around (if that's what you were implying).
PostPosted:Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:52 pm
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>...and BTW, to Bush: Those video clips were sweet! Thanks for showing them to me. I agreed with all of the passionate statements made by the men in the clips and they got me even more fired up to "smoke you out" of the white house in November.</div>
I'm not so sure that Kerry supporters have blatantly said that, though. This commercial seems to draw the line for the Democrats to make it look like they have said it, and then uses it against them.
PostPosted:Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:52 am
by Flip
<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>If Kerry supporters have said it then i am wrong. If they havnt, then the Republicans are the first ones to cry Hitler (even if they are using it in a kind of backward fashion) and Sine may be right.</div>
MoveOne.org held a "make a 30 second commercial to get rid of Bush" contest. The Hitler clip was one of several hundred short clips sent in by individuals to the MoveOne.org website and was quickly thrown out of the contest because of its
PostPosted:Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:09 am
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>However Bush & Co. don't note this and they splice it in with images of Gore, Dean, & Kerry adding the <i>effect</i> that all of these people are the same (Democrats & Hitler). This whole thing seems stupid to me.</div>
Yeah, but see, MoveOn is a leftist organization, not actually affiliated with Kerry.
PostPosted:Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:33 am
by ak404
<div style='font: 10pt "Comic Sans MS"; text-align: left; '>So saying that Kerry approved of the message because Kerry and MoveOn.org are both liberal is like saying that al-Sistani and bin Laden are both Muslims, so they must always agree.</div>
PostPosted:Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:14 pm
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I know, I'm a member of MoveOn... (or at least I get their newsletter) You make a good point though.</div>
PostPosted:Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:58 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Not to mention that besides the Hitler clips and the part at the end (with the fucking LOL funny music), it could have been a democratic commericial. Yes, Bush, it -IS- time for the public to get pissed off!</div>