The Shrine

PostPosted:**Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:54 am**

<div style='font: 10pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>Yeah, maybe... or maybe you're just a sick freak who likes to jerk it while on the phone!</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:15 am**

PostPosted:**Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:45 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... 15.html</a>

This is the first time I've seen him anywhere near humble.</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:57 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Washington Post again...</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:23 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>lewis.junk@cox.net

PW "Bilbo"

dont you have a shit mail account?</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:29 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I got this link off of Google, so that's as good as you're getting.</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:41 pm**

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>I'm just waiting until he says that this is a "vast, left-wing conspiracy"</div>

PostPosted:**Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:41 am**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's the principal of the matter. I will not register to read something online, period. Nor do I want to support such actions. The Internet is a free-flowing information system, not a marketing tool for companies</div>

PostPosted:**Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:19 am**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Zeus, if that held, then this article wouldn't even BE online. I'm reading newspaper articles for free. Giving them some information so they can report demographics to their advertisers - where they get their revenue - is more than fair.</div>

PostPosted:**Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:21 am**

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>And the normative side of the self-proclaimed economist mounts the soapbox.</div>

PostPosted:**Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:23 am**

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>God help us, he's a normative economist.</div>

PostPosted:**Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:16 am**

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Man, I've been saying that he's an ass for quite some time.</div>

PostPosted:**Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:18 am**

PostPosted:**Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:06 pm**

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/ ... 6c.html</a>

Here's more: Fox counter-sues the woman AND fires her for "unrelated issues" Wow.</div>

PostPosted:**Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:36 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>In more realistic words, you suffer from chronic laziness.</div>

PostPosted:**Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:21 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt Arial; text-align: left; '>As my fellow sea-dog points out, you're just being lazy. Which is fine, just stop trying to rationalize it.</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:44 am**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That's fine, but I hate it. What I don't mind is the "we'll give you some content for free, but some you'll have to register for". I'm OK with that, but not the registering for EVERYTHING. That's why I stopped reading the Toronto Star's sports pages. Sun's much better anyways :-)</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:45 am**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>NOt at all. You see, I have these things called "morals" and "principals" and I actually live by them all the way, no compromises</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:49 am**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>More of a social liberalist. I just think that we need to keep companies in check, they just do what they want and most people sit back and do nothing about it. I thought about it, decided it wasn't right (IMO) for them to force registration for everything, so I make a point of not partaking.</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:02 am**

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>That's right, strike a blow against corporate encroachment by not registering to read an online newspaper. Teach those totalitarian apes at the Washington Post a lesson they'll never forget. By the way, what's a social liberalist?</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:03 am**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Uh, what's the difference?</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:04 am**

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>That's right, strike a blow against corporate encroachment by not registering to read an online newspaper. It'll teach those totalitarians at the Washington Post a lesson they'll never forget. By the way, what's a social liberalist?</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:07 am**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>But you have no problem when the Washington Post charges for a subscription.</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:32 am**

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Use BugMeNot. All of the logins are full of bogus data, so the people who give them their ad money get bullshit data, and they get to support their web site. Everybody's happy.</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:08 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt Arial; text-align: left; '>You do realize that it costs money to do things like run an enormous, multifaceted news website, right?</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:36 pm**

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Umm....You gonna let him call you that Zeus? I don't know what that is, but they sound like fightin' words to me!</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:45 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>A liberal-minded person with the greater social good in mind. Not all liberals are like that. And yes, it does hurt them, they can't make the extra money if people refuse to sign up or give bogus data. Plus, if they do what I do, they don't get the ad revenue and will be forced to get rid of it</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:47 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The sites that make you register for EVERYTHING is what I hate. Basically, it's the lesson IGN learned. You give the normal stories for free but keep other, "special" stuff (additional data, some very exclusive, "extra"-type content) for the payers or subscribers. It's a huge difference</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:47 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>You do realize there's these things called "ad banners", right?</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:49 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>To the newspaper? Not at all, there's a helluva lot more costs in producing/manufacturing and delivery of the hard copies. The websites, after initial outlay, are a mere fraction of the costs</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:50 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's the continued increase in dominance of commericalization of the Internet that I dont' like, and this like forced subscriptions are a part of it.</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:13 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Yes, you've clearly stated what you hate. But I don't understand what's the moral difference.</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:16 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I won't agree that they are a "mere fraction of the cost," but I agree it is less overhead. And - guess what - due to that, it's FREE. Demographics get reported about subscriptions just the same as registrations. Registration = subscription - charge.</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:18 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>You're focusing on forced subscriptions as a part of the commercialization of the internet, which is myopic. Newspapers are commercial entities to begin with.</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:21 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>If they don't get the ad revenue, then they won't exist online. They are for-profit enterprises - and even non-profits need to generate revenue. I don't think you realize this: newspapers are in the business of selling advertisement space.</div>

PostPosted:**Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:18 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>There is no such thing as a "social liberalist." You coined it out of thin air--congratulations, I guess. But I'm more worried that you apparently believe a newspaper like The Washington Post--one of the more liberal papers in this country--is part of some broader plan for corporate domination.</div>

PostPosted:**Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:03 am**

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Considering the amount of pop-ups, pop-unders and flashing blinking banners, I think most sane companies realize that they don't generate revenue at all.</div>

PostPosted:**Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:07 am**

<div style='font: 11pt Arial; text-align: left; '>What in the blue hell is the difference between ad banners and a free registration that contains advertising offers? The fact that you have to type your name?</div>

The Shrine

Alright, O'Reilly is an ass. Now he is the one playing the conspiracy card, saying that perhaps the harassment suit is a political move due to the victims connections with the Democratic party...

Alright, O'Reilly is an ass. Now he is the one playing the conspiracy card, saying that perhaps the harassment suit is a political move due to the victims connections with the Democratic party...

use my login if it such a hassle...