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9.0 earthquake hits off the coast of Sumatra...triggers masive tidal wave..death toll over 23,000 now.

PostPosted:Mon Dec 27, 2004 12:49 pm
by Shellie
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/1 ... ex.html</a>

9.0 earthquake hits off the coast of Sumatra...triggers masive tidal wave..death toll over 23,000 now.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Dec 27, 2004 2:47 pm
by Eric
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Geez, it was 21k earlier too!</div>

PostPosted:Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:20 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Holy fuck: "The entire Maldives, I think, for a moment disappeared from the planet Earth."</div>

PostPosted:Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:17 am
by Shellie
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>Death toll at 40,000 now.......</div>

PostPosted:Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:29 pm
by Shellie
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>52k</div>

I find it funny that the US originally sent 12million over for aid.  Japan sent 30million, Austrailia 9mil.  We then sent an extra 20mil.  Was it to one-up Japan, or was it sincere?  It really bothers me how casual Americans are taking

PostPosted:Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:38 pm
by Shellie
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>A lot of people I mention this to either didnt know what happened, or are like "Oh, yeah that tsunami in Asia, yeah, that sucks..."

Where's the colored ribbons for their countries? 52 THOUSAND people dead, and counting!! That deserves some kind of ribbon, candelight vigil, half-staff flags..something, right?

Or is America the only place that matters?</div>

PostPosted:Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:34 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Heh...earlier Wes was complaining that the US is supposed to be evil, and yet they are demanding more aid. He watches Fox News too much.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:32 am
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>65,000+, very sad.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:47 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=1 ... =180445</a>

Disturbing comments from religious freaks: "What a great opportunity to share the gospel and the news of revelation and current issues. Lord, Lord, this is incredible. Praying for the millions of people who are affected. Jesus, please let them see your glory and know you as we do."</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:59 am
by Torgo
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Anyone see the video of the family holding on to each other for dear life, only to be separated by the increasingly powerful waves? That was just sad.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:17 am
by Shellie
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>He was complaining that the countries want more aid than they have been given so far? Fuck him. 2/3 of an entire island's population was wiped away. Dead bodies wash up on the beach all the time, disease is bound to kill even more people.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:10 pm
by Shellie
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>80k..I think I need to stop looking at the news on this before I get really depressed</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:35 pm
by Eric
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>God I love how CNN catches the most depressing shit, and just throw it in your face.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:15 pm
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>What's disturbing about it? Finding a possible bright spot based on their beliefs in a tragic situation? Sine, you're a moron.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:46 pm
by Eric
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Based on his comment I'd see it more like taking advantage to spread your beliefs on people who are vulnerable, but that's just me.</div>

The way you phrased that just shows that you're biased against people like this already so...

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:14 pm
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but...

How are they taking advantage of people who are vulnerable? By praying for them? If that's the best example you have, then I'm not sure what to say to that. These people are nowhere near the people affected by this. It's not like they're talking to them directly.

The way you phrased your response tells me a lot. You make it sound like they're a cult trying to trick people into joining when they're in trouble. You have absolutely no concept of what these people believe. When someone is done, these people believe that the best thing to raise them back up is faith in God and Jesus Christ.

But of course, these people couldn't be genuinely concerned for the people affected by this and want what they believe is the best thing for them. Nah, they're obviously just forcing their beliefs on people like a virus because they enjoy it. Yeah, that's it. (Please note the heavy sarcasm)</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:07 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Linking the greatness of your religion to what may be, numbers-wise, the worst natural disaster in recorded history is probably not a good idea.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:13 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>That style of proselytizing lacks humility. There certainly are people who do it humbly and provide service to those they also try to convert, but what Sine quoted is more opportunism than compassion.</div>

Some people don't have tact...

PostPosted:Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:19 pm
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't care what the quote says, I think you're all assuming too much about this person's opportunism versus their compassion.

What irritates me the most is that Sine pulled that one quote out of 7 pages of messages that were all "What a tragedy!" or "I'm praying for them!" or "I can't believe this!" and posts it as "Check out the religious freaks."

But I guess that's just Sine choosing to ignore what would hurt him proving some point of his and thus why he is a moron.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:11 pm
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I do agree with that. It doesn't help to win anyone's favor, I suppose. But they can't all be as perfect as us here at the Shrine, can they :)</div>

PostPosted:Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:19 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>They are encouraging God to bring forth terrible natural disasters to strike down on the heathens. One should not read Revelations and feel joy.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:36 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Hey, for those who are praying for them, good for them, but they shouldn't stake this as an opportunity to hark their religion. People should be praying and donating, not praising this disaster as a sign of the end of days.</div>

Like I said...

PostPosted:Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:51 pm
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I think you're assuming how much this person is harking their religion more than you should, but there's obviously no way to know. I definitely don't see his/her comments as praising the disaster, but rather seeing one good thing in a horrible event. It's not like anyone can deny how awful this whole thing was.

And yes, this person could have stated this in a way that didn't seem so opportunistic to some people (as I think it depends on the individual on how you take their comments). But I still think it was ignorant to grab it out of 7 pages of comments that were nothing like it and present it like it's the attitude of those who are religious, because that's what your original post did.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:36 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>All I have to go on is what this quote says.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:09 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>There were plenty of other comments similar to it. And I didn't say that it's the global attitude of those who are religious.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:12 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>"Oh, John...look at the way this poor brown-skinned kid drowns. What a tragedy!" "That it is, Sarah. I certainly wouldn't want to die like that. Let's show that a few more times for our viewers."</div>

PostPosted:Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:28 am
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Well that's the impression I got from your message and I'll just say that I wasn't inclined to believe otherwise coming from you. But, regardless, you say you didn't mean that, so I'll say ok.</div>