The Shrine

<div style='font: 11pt georgia; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.peta.org/news/NewsItem.asp?i ... id=1899</a>

PETS says no meat for prisioners!</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>PETA, not PETS. You've been at work too long.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Why don't they just feed the prisoners vegetarians on death row? Gentz....you best behave yerself, boy. =8^)</div>

<div style='font: 11pt georgia; text-align: left; '>Yeah staring at a screen for 10 hours doesnt help</div>

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Hey, I'm all for that if it truly saves money for other things. Screw inmates. heh. I for one, am going to eat all the meat I can though. :)</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>It's a ridiculous argument. There are better ways of saving money, such as....ummm...getting rid of victimless crimes?</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>exactly-- screw the inmates they get enough luxuries as it is.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>I know I'm just throwing gasoline on the fire here...but what kind of "victimless crimes" ?</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>What luxuries do you speak of?</div>

<div style='font: 11pt georgia; text-align: left; '>a crime where there is no victim, drug crimes, tax crimes, traffic law crimes, etc</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Tax crimes? I didn't say anything about tax crimes.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>well how else are you going to punish breaking those laws when fining doesn't work?</div>

<div style='font: 11pt georgia; text-align: left; '>whatever, it was an example</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>If there's no victim, why should they be punished? Oh, you can fuck a person, but if money is involved...</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>My farts should be a CRIMINAL ACT! =8^)</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The question here isn't so much how to enforce those laws, but rather if those laws should even exist.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>so...we should let people drive however the hell they want? Haha, that would go over well; anarchy, anyone?</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>the laws are in place to try to stop you from committing a victim crime.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm not saying either way, I'm just keeping you focused on the actual topic, something you don't seem to do as of late.

Sine said we should get rid of "victimless crimes"
You asked what victimless crimes are
Seraphina answers tax, drugs, traffic, etc.
You proceed to jump off topic and ask how else should we be expected to enforce punishment for these crimes

Topic: Why are these even laws?
Your answer: How else should we enforce these laws, huh?

If you hadn't noticed yet, there is a slight mismatch between the two.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Illegal to rape: good law (victim is the other person)
Illegal to prostitute: bad law (victim is nobody)

Illegal to drive while on drugs: good law (victim is the other people on the road)
Illegal to do drugs in your own home: bad law (victim is nobody)

Illegal to not have headlights: good law (victim is people who can't see you)
Illegal to not wear a seatbelt: bad law (victim is nobody)

Illegal to steal money: good law (victim is who you stole from)
Illegal to gamble: bad law (victim is nobody)</div>