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your damn fucking right we wont</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>suonds like payback for all the anti-terror crap US wants to force on Canada...but we dont need your mounties and fishing boats with mounted machine guns anyway ;)</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>But it couldnt hurt to oh,.. say RESPECT THE U.N THAT YOU GUYS WERE INTEGRAL IN CREATING because the United States have now set a precedent, that the U.N doesnt mean dogshit, so why would any other country respect it now?</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Sounds like one country in North America still remembers the word "democracy"</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>uhm...it's apparant now that the UN DOESN'T mean dogshit anymore. As I and Will said-- the UN is to maintain peace, not dictate war. Plus the whole veto shit throws democracy out the window so we need something better</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>since when was giving half the members of an alliance full veto power a democracy? And I'm glad Canada is backing out, they want to stop looking like US's bitch...plus we won't be able to accidentally bomb their troops anymore</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>There you go again. What the hell is the difference between "dictate war" and "maintain peace"? In order to "maintain peace", you have to fight. BTW, what about Israel? There's an example of the UN not doing shit.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>While it is probably the right thing for Canada to do, you cant deny that Hussein has broken the promises set forth at the end of the Gulf War and therefore deserves some action against him.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>ouch.</div>

<div style='font: bold 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>...but hey, I don't blame them. Why bring any heat on your country? Our country will do the dirty work and take all the heat because we're the only ones who can. I'm sure the German, French and Canadian armies could take out Saddam without US support if it came down to it, right? It's not like the UN hasn't already proven it's impotence in not being able to make Saddam comply with the terms of his surrender after 12 years, or it's complete unwillingness to enforce the resolution it ALREADY PASSED unanimously...yeah, that little 1441 deal that sanctioned force if Saddam didn't comply but didn't provide a timeline because no one in the UN has any fucking backbone...whether anyone likes it or not, the US is justified in using force to make Irag comply with THE TERMS OF THEIR SURRENDER (in case anyone forgot that that's the point) which the UN has said that Saddam is in violation of...it should have been done 12 years ago but Bush Sr. backed down to save american troop casualties (and because he lacked the balls to finish it) and let the UN take care of it, it should have been taken care of in 98 when they threw the inspectors out but Clinton cared more about polls and blowjobs to do anything, it should have been handled by a joint UN/US force now but a few countries lack the balls to back up what they say...

...and now we're doing it with only a handful of the countries that were with us in 91...and guess what, Canada was there in 91 too, and no matter how you spin it, it's fucking bullshit that you're backing down now when it's time to finish the job...don't even think you look good because of this...and don't think I'm some ignorant American...I live on the border, I watch the Canadian news almost every night...this is a political move by your P.M., not one for his people...your country is as split on this issue as our country is...the only people he's appeasing are his fellow politicians that want to keep their hands clean...don't buy the spin..</div>

<div style='font: bold 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Do everyone a favor and shut up...you really do a good job of making americans look ignorant...</div>

<div style='font: bold 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Just about every poll I've seen is nearly 70% to 30% in favor of military action in the US...you were saying?</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I mean no offense, but Iraq complied with the UN reolutions, Bush by invading Iraq is actually performing a criminal act by the UN law, invading a sovereign nation is the reason why Iraq got in trouble the first time.

Besides, you don't seam to understand the situation of war, many many people are going to die. If you remember what happened to the US on September 11th, this is going to be at least 10 times worse to Iraq than it was to New York. So before you open your mouth and speak retarded bullshit that Bush's propaganda has told you to believe, look with your own eyes and see the truth.

Also, a political move by my Prime Minister? What the hell are you talking about, he is retiring in a couple of years, the guy who is replacing him as the leader of the Canadian Liberal party is his largest political rival. Perhaps I should tell you a bit about democracy, the leaders represent the public, and that is exactly what Chretien is doing, what the hell is your problem with that?</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Explain the meaning of this dictate war vs. maintain peace thing.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Skewed view of Seeker is limitless.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>murder women and children? Good god...once again yes-- the US military is under strict orders to slaughter every child they find and rape every hot woman on their way into Baghdad.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>UN can't do anything about Israel cause they're our buddies and thanks to the power of veto the US'll never let anything happen to them-- I've said the UN is flawed and this whole conflict shows just that</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>I was fucking joking damnit; Vic gave me a history lesson on the Canadian military before</div>

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>The reason the UN is failing in this is because bush can't wait a month to finish daddies business</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>So has Israel, after being ordered to remove itself from the occupied territories of the West Bank over 30 years ago. But the US won't move against them, they're allies.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>we've waited long e-freakin-'nuff. The troops are there, we can't back out now without looking like pussies to the rest of the world, and this needs to be done.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Canada didn't 'Back Out' we were never 'In'. We supported the actions against Al-Queda because there was a clear purpose with full support. And Britain is your 'Bitch' not us.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>Israel's just another example of how the UN is flawed. As long as a country has the backing of one with veto power they can do pretty much what they want</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>They're firing missles at a large city, it doesn't take a genius to know what the result is going to be.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm being realistic, no offense, but you know shit about the consequences of war.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.adata.com/~aod/kvi_aircheck_ ... 003.mp3</a>

Apparently you know far less. Can you tell us how keeping Saddam in power will save lives? You chirping bird? =8^)</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Common sense, blowing up a large city kills more people than not blowing up a large city.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Who says the US was gonna level Baghdad?</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>at military installations perhaps-- we have no intention of leveling the fucking city of Baghdad</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>I fail to see what makes you an expert on the subject</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=bom ... vilians</a>

Just do a simple search on Google News...</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>The Liberal party likely will be (not because of this issue, though), but Chretien has already announced his resignation as leader.

I think this was more a decision based on popular opinion. A CBC poll found the numbers to be 25%/75% support/oppose without UN backing. Oddly enough, with UN approval, the numbers were 65%/35% support/oppose.

I don't really care, myself. I'm just eager to see how the American public will view Bush after he's out of office, and the propaganda train has been derailed.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Slanted views of the 1991 Gulf War. They didn't point out that the shelter bombed had an Iraqi artillery on top of it. Nice try Sine. But no cigar.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Well, why don't the other countries pull a Bush and force the issue without UN support? After all, the resolution is ALREADY THERE!</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I wasn't specifically talking about that article.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/s809091.htm">'Shock and Awe'</a>

I wasn't specifically talking about that article. Look at this article: search for "gates of Baghdad".</div>

<div style='font: bold 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Didn't know he was resigning...as for Bush, I still think he's a moron but is essentially doing the right thing here...I'll consider him the greatest president ever though if he takes the same hard line with Israel...I can dream a little can't I?</div>