The Shrine

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.iraqometer.com/">Iraqometer</a>

Hehe, an animated easy-to-use site on the statistics in the war</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>664 civilians? My god!</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Yes, because war is all fluffy and happy and full of rainbows and magical pixie dust raining from the sky. Oh, wait.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Saying "That's war" does not mitigate civillian death. Everyone saw it coming - that doesn't change what is happening.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Tell that to the republican fuckheads who started this thing.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>it's not accurate at all; NO ONE knows the number of civilian casualties in this or any war cause frankly no one bothers to count</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Exact numbers, no. Reasonable estimates, yes.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>Of course!! Operation Freedon in Iraq, YEAAAA SUNSHINE!!!! *stupid fucking name*</div>

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>think about it, thats not really a lot of people. My high school had roughly 3000 people (Tort should know) and if suddenly 700+ were missing i doubt i would even notice.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Millions of civillians died in WW II. Comparatively, this is pretty small potatoes.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Wait. This is likely to go on for months, which might includes weeks of heavy bombing.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Though there will be civilian casualties, the precision.....WAIT A MINUTE! I said NO MORE WAR POSTS FROM ME!</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>This site tries to be the most reliable...but their numbers include figures back before even January so even this isn't accurate in its estimate</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.iraqbodycount.com">Casualties from a heavily biased source</a>

er, this site</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>we're no longer carpet bombing cities anymore</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Considering just how many munitions we're using, be happy that the number is so freaking low.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Well, we have been bombing the no-fly zone for the past 12 or so years.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I cut off your toe. Be happy I didn't take off your entire leg.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>yeah but that was all UN sanctioned and jazz, I don't care about who we killed prior to declaring war. No one cared before the war that we were bombing them already</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I don't deny that more civillians are likely to die in the future. But neither do I believe that the casualty numbers will approach anything near WW II levels.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Yes, many people did.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Nor do I. And while that can put things in perspective, civillians are still being killed.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I am, thanks.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Could be worse. He could have killed you and raped your g/f.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Thank you, Sine, you just made my point.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>The point is that whatever restraint I have practiced is overwhelmed by the harm I have done.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>No, I was making Kupek's point. For everything, there is something worse, but there is also something better.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>664 civilians falls far short of what one would normally expect of a war. There is no thankfulness that 664 civilians died, but there is thankfulness to be had that our war in Iraq hasn't lived up to expectations and resulted in far more civilian casulties.

There isn't going to be a war without civilian casulties, it's that simple. While you are right that any civilian casulties are horrible, you ask for the impossible.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Not starting a war was impossible? Bullshit.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Idiot, read what I post before you reply. I said waging a war without civilian casualties is impossible, I didn't say that we couldn't have avoided this war.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Fool! :P</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>His point is sound - the casualties could have been avoided.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Of course it's sound, it just has nothing to do with what I was saying.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Moron! :)</div>