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Civic Hybrid

PostPosted:Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:50 pm
by Lox
Does anyone here own a Civic Hybrid?

I thought someone had one.

With the way gas prices are going, I know I'm going to need something like this in the future. I was checking them out online and the prices are not bad at all for the local Honda dealership. Maybe I'll go take one for a test drive sometime.

So if anyone has one, how's the performance? Like how is the pickup, the top speed, all that stuff?

PostPosted:Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:20 pm
by Flip
I hear they are nice, in our area there may still be a waiting list for one. I wish it got better mileage, though. You can buy a more powerful compact car that doesnt get too much worse. I think the accords are 40 ish? Even my 1996 Rav 4 gets about 30. The smaller hybrids can top around 50, as can that diesel Jetta/Golf.

PostPosted:Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:43 pm
by Torgo
Most of the reviews I've read said that most companies overestimate fuel economy, which means that the Civic/Accord hybrids are more fuel eficient than their regular counterparts by about 10 or so mpg. Not so sure about the Insight, I think that one has better mileage, but I'm too lazy to check it out.

The Toyota Prius is one of the top hybrids, in terms of fuel economy. I'd snatch one up if I had the cash.

Re: Civic Hybrid

PostPosted:Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:50 am
by Agent 57
Lox wrote:Does anyone here own a Civic Hybrid?

I thought someone had one.
*raises hand*

That would be me. Had mine for about 9 months now, and I still love it as much as I did when I first got it last summer.

As far as performance goes, both engines added together give the thing roughly 93 HP or so, which is perfectly adequate for 99% of all driving needs. I can get up to speed on the highway just fine, I beat people off the line at traffic lights (although that's due more to reaction time than anything else), all that sort of good stuff. I have no clue what the top speed is as I've never bothered trying - I can get it to 80 just fine when I need to for passing or whatnot, but I haven't spent much time on the highway going any faster than 65 as I feel the small gains in time aren't worth the loss of mileage.

Speaking of that, the way I know of the loss of mileage at higher highway speeds is the instantaneous mileage meter on the main dash, which has really changed the way I drive (for the better). I drive a little bit slower now (thus more in control), and I try to stay at a constant speed more often (I've become addicted to cruise control, as I figure the car is better at driving itself than I am). I've also, by my own choice, turned into the default carpool guy - since my car is going to get the best mileage, why shouldn't I drive if multiple people are going to the same place?

As far as actual mileage goes, I averaged about 50 mpg in the summer and in the low to mid 40's in the winter (cold, snowy conditions + less fuel-efficient "winter gas" didn't help the mileage any). The best I've ever done on one tank was when I was driving from Ohio home to Massachusetts last June and got 600 miles on 10.1 gallons. *chest swells*

As far as I know, the Insight gets much better mileage than the Civic at the cost of passenger space (the Insight is only a two-seater), and the Prius gets comparable mileage to the Civic but is not available in a manual transmission (which was a deal-breaker for me - give me stick or give me death!). Not to mention the Prius is butt-ugly. :)

I would expect the Accord Hybrid to get in the high 30's for mileage, which isn't that impressive until you remember that the Accord has a 255 HP engine in it (although, I think "255 HP hybrid vehicle" is a bit of an oxymoron).

Personally, I think the Civic Hybrid is a much niftier car than the Prius. Not only does it look like an actual car - as opposed to a futuristic "travel pod" - you get your choice of transmission, and I still say the fact that the Civic's gasoline engine shuts itself off when the car is slow/stopped is the coolest thing ever. (I went to an AHL hockey game last week, and when I pulled into the parking lot and stopped to pay the attendant, he looked at my silent car in confusion and said to me, "Hey, is this thing running?" :D)

Re: Civic Hybrid

PostPosted:Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:24 am
by Lox
Agent 57 wrote: As far as performance goes, both engines added together give the thing roughly 93 HP or so, which is perfectly adequate for 99% of all driving needs. I can get up to speed on the highway just fine, I beat people off the line at traffic lights (although that's due more to reaction time than anything else), all that sort of good stuff. I have no clue what the top speed is as I've never bothered trying - I can get it to 80 just fine when I need to for passing or whatnot, but I haven't spent much time on the highway going any faster than 65 as I feel the small gains in time aren't worth the loss of mileage.
I love my Integra GS-R for it's speed, but as long as I can beat a good # of people at traffic lights and get around slow drivers when I need to, I'm fine. And with the kind of mileage this car gets, it's worth it.
Agent 57 wrote:Speaking of that, the way I know of the loss of mileage at higher highway speeds is the instantaneous mileage meter on the main dash, which has really changed the way I drive (for the better).
That's a cool feature.
Agent 57 wrote:As far as actual mileage goes, I averaged about 50 mpg in the summer and in the low to mid 40's in the winter (cold, snowy conditions + less fuel-efficient "winter gas" didn't help the mileage any).
That's very very very nice. :)
Agent 57 wrote:As far as I know, the Insight gets much better mileage than the Civic at the cost of passenger space (the Insight is only a two-seater), and the Prius gets comparable mileage to the Civic but is not available in a manual transmission (which was a deal-breaker for me - give me stick or give me death!). Not to mention the Prius is butt-ugly. :)
Totally agree there. Those are the exact reasons I'm considering a Civic and nothing else. :) (especially about the manual transmission)
Agent 57 wrote:Personally, I think the Civic Hybrid is a much niftier car than the Prius. Not only does it look like an actual car - as opposed to a futuristic "travel pod" - you get your choice of transmission, and I still say the fact that the Civic's gasoline engine shuts itself off when the car is slow/stopped is the coolest thing ever.
I would agree with all of that. I might go check one out this weekend or during the week to test drive and see what they'd give me as a trade-in. I'll see if I can get one of my brother's friends to buy my car maybe. :)

PostPosted:Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:30 pm
by Imakeholesinu
You're selling the tegra???? That was your baby pride and joy two years ago Loxy!

I putz around in a 1998 Saturn SL2 right now which is burning oil like my alcohol budget is burning holes in my wallet. I get 30Mpg on the highway and around 22 in the city.

I was looking at a civic hybrid as well and I priced one out and it would cost me like 21 G's I think. I need to learn how to drive a stick. Oh well, laa dee daa.

PostPosted:Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:06 pm
by Lox
Barret wrote:You're selling the tegra???? That was your baby pride and joy two years ago Loxy!

I putz around in a 1998 Saturn SL2 right now which is burning oil like my alcohol budget is burning holes in my wallet. I get 30Mpg on the highway and around 22 in the city.

I was looking at a civic hybrid as well and I priced one out and it would cost me like 21 G's I think. I need to learn how to drive a stick. Oh well, laa dee daa.
I'm considering it, depending on whether I could afford a Civic Hybrid.

It's still my pride & joy. I still love driving it. :) I need to give it a bath soon.

PostPosted:Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:53 am
by SineSwiper
Very good govt site for MPG info:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/