The Shrine

first i want to see what you think about this before i tell you guys where i found it:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 918-9.html

it's a Presidential declaration exempting an Air Force Facility from the EPA.

So, they have nuclear weapons aboard Air Force One, what's the big deal?

are you kidding me?

Nuclear war can be funny. Imagine a video of US President George Bush flying around all by himself and nuking cities for no other reason than fun.

The Seeker wrote:Nuclear war can be funny. Imagine a video of US President George Bush flying around all by himself and nuking cities for no other reason than fun.

Wow. I do disagree. Seeker, have you lost your mind?

Heh, that is funny.

Mental wrote:Wow. I do disagree. Seeker, have you lost your mind?

I take it you're not much of one for absurdist humor.

Tortolia wrote:I take it you're not much of one for absurdist humor.

Yeah, really. Imagine Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig.

Keep in mind this is exempting Groom Lake from the EPA. Area 51 and all of that jazz. We all know they are holding top secret technology over there.

Tortolia wrote:

Mental wrote:Wow. I do disagree. Seeker, have you lost your mind?

I take it you're not much of one for absurdist humor.

I suppose it would depend on the realism of what was done. Sorry, but the idea of nuclear war scares me enough to not find many jokes about it funny.

Mental wrote:I suppose it would depend on the realism of what was done. Sorry, but the idea of nuclear war scares me enough to not find many jokes about it funny.

You need to be able to laugh at the fucked up things in life. It's a coping mechanism.

Kupek wrote:

Mental wrote:I suppose it would depend on the realism of what was done. Sorry, but the idea of nuclear war scares me enough to not find many jokes about it funny.

You need to be able to laugh at the fucked up things in life. It's a coping mechanism.

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*sob sob sob*

SineSwiper wrote:

Tortolia wrote:I take it you're not much of one for absurdist humor.

Yeah, really. Imagine Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig.

HAHAHAHA, that's the single funniest thing I think you have ever posted =P

The Seeker wrote:

SineSwiper wrote:

Tortolia wrote:I take it you're not much of one for absurdist humor.

Yeah, really. Imagine Elmer Fudd raping Porky Pig.

HAHAHAHA, that's the single funniest thing I think you have ever posted =P

But borrowed from George Carlin.

Yeah, I can't take credit for that one.

the problem I have with the idea of Bush solo bombing the rest of the world is my fear that someone will make a very potentially funny flash video about it and post it on the internet. i'm sure many people would think it was funny, but we don't need many people who DON'T to screw up international relations. our reputation is fucked up enough already since Dubya was elected.

...you're scared of parody shockwave videos?

Uh, OK then.

How about George Bush raping Hillary Clinton?

Tortolia wrote:...you're scared of parody shockwave videos?

Uh, OK then.

No...I'm afraid of the effects of American arrogance on both ourselves and the rest of the world.

Mental wrote:

Tortolia wrote:...you're scared of parody shockwave videos?

Uh, OK then.

No...I'm afraid of the effects of American arrogance on both ourselves and the rest of the world.

I think your sense of perspective is really off.

Parody shockwave videos like the hypothetical one in question aren't the problem per se in and of themselves...but they reflect an attitude of self-importance on our part, and I think it's that attitude that causes enmity and bad feeling by people the rest of the world over.

When I was about ten my mother and I went on a trip to South Africa, then Egypt. I remember being at a bonfire at the safari camp we were at in South Africa and hearing one of the guides laughing about "Damn Yanks." I would prefer to live in the type of world where I am not hated outside of my own country, and I try to act in a way that is in accordance with that.

I mean, this is why I walked out of Team America as well - sure, there were a lot of funny bits in it, but I also took Arabic for a year at school and saw the attitude of my professor (an expatriated Palestinian) towards American foreign policy. I didn't think a bunch of puppet Arabs running around shouting "Muhammad Ali!" - basically, as I was discussing with a coworker at JAMDAT after the movie came out, more or less in blackface - is going to help America gain any respect for Arab culture. With the constant conflict and struggle in the region, I believe this is important if we as a people of the world are ever going to take a serious try at world peace. Now, I know that it's not Parker and Stone's job to be fostering international cooperation - they're in the business of making funny movies, and they're quite good at it - but I still don't have to take part in humor that I feel marginalizes people.

My apologies if I feel a little strongly about this, but I think it's well and goddamned fucked up to have one's humor at the expense of a lot of other people simply because they don't happen to live anywhere near you.

Okay, great, you don't like that our foreign policy makes us international pariahs. Neither do I. But I have enough perspective to realize that a parody flash video doesn't have a measurable impact on that.

And for the record, when someone first brought up this fictional flash video, I assumed it would be along the lines of "Ha ha, Bush would be dumb enough to blow up the world, let's all laugh at his cowboy ways" not "Go Bush, blow up those heathens."

I would disagree about the potential importance of things like that. It might just be a drop in the bucket, but still...I mean, there's a reason that phrases like "the straw that broke the camel's back" are still in use today. The entire world is just made up of little things, after all.

This all goes back to one of my fundamental rules about the internet: Take absolutely nothing seriously.

Well that part I agree with - for the most part - on a personal level. But I'm not sure everyone has that rule...besides which, I read news sites and those I would at least like to be able to take somewhat seriously.