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Psychologist = Bullshit artist

PostPosted:Sun Apr 20, 2003 10:28 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s834206.htm">ADHD does not exist...</a>

Psychologist = Bullshit artist</div>

PostPosted:Sun Apr 20, 2003 11:28 pm
by Tortolia
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm glad you can judge the worth of an entire field based on one person. You do us proud, Sine.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Apr 20, 2003 11:28 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Heh...and what about "Dr. Phil"?</div>

PostPosted:Sun Apr 20, 2003 11:30 pm
by Tortolia
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>What about him?</div>

PostPosted:Sun Apr 20, 2003 11:38 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Let's just say that I could easily do his job, and not make myself look like a fucking asshole, either.</div>

Sine, no one bitches about the idiots in the psychology field more than me......but I also studied it (I have a minor in it)

PostPosted:Mon Apr 21, 2003 12:09 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>And I can tell you that there are extremely gifted and brilliant people there, even if they are outnumbered by the morons 1000-1. Don't discount the entire field just because the majority of those in it are morons, there still is a ton of credibility and positive research that goes on.

And as for Dr. Phil, at the very least, people listen to him. His greatest contribution is that he found a way for people to listen, to change their lives (I'm not saying that everyone on his show does, but some definetely do). And isn't that the point anyways? I've often told my fiancee that the only difference between what I say and what Dr. Phil say is that he has a degree and people assume he's right. But at the end of the day, a psychologist is supposed to help you, and he does....I don't....</div>

PostPosted:Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:08 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>He's a dick. And?</div>

PostPosted:Mon Apr 21, 2003 11:46 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I would say the same thing about psychics, but then I'd get blasted about it.</div>

So what...? I'd agree....

PostPosted:Mon Apr 21, 2003 12:11 pm
by kali o.
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>There is a tendancy to over-presribe disorders and their respective medication in the medical field...and yes, doctors (GPs) are primarily to blame. Depression, for instance.

I wouldn't go quite so far as to claim ADHD doesn't exist, but I have seen first-hand that almost every instance is hardly distinguishable from bad behaviour with a marked history of unstructured and/or spoiled upbringing. There is zero evidence it is a disorder in itself and I'd be willing to bet that future research will show the few REAL cognitive difficulties will be linked to FAS or something similar where genetic and structural brain deficiencies result.

Frankly, I'd prefer to not have a generation of kids grow up, weened on needless medication...but hey, that's me.

KO-</div>

Of course, I agree to a certain extent, too...

PostPosted:Mon Apr 21, 2003 1:33 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Depression is WAAAY overdiagnosed. I'm sure ADHD is too, but that doesn't mean it DOESN'T exist. That's just stupid. Certain people have certain chemical imbalances, which need medicine to correct. ADHD (whatever happened to ADD?) and depression are just a few.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:51 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>What do you mean "would"? You just did.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Apr 21, 2003 5:13 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>But I agree with you....to a degree. And I also have a slightly more informed opinion</div>

PostPosted:Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:06 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Quit taking everything everyone says so literally. You can be annoyingly dense sometimes.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:58 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Say what you mean. It's not hard.</div>