The Shrine

If there is one thing i've learned over the years with these religious debates it is that you cant argue against faith. People with faith dont need or want proof and they are happy to simply believe... it drives me nuts.

Nah their proof is in the bible, cause we all know what a reliable piece of source material that is. Think I'll read up on adam and eve, along with the little lying snake sometime in the near future. *Rolls Eyes*

I've tried to read the Christian Bible...but wordy isn't the word to describe it in my opinion. I'd heard the Book of Job was supposed to be good reading if you were going through stuff, so when I was, I tried to read it. The God character goes on for pages and pages...PAGES and pages and pages...when he finally shows up...but I couldn't see that he said much that I couldn't have said in two or three sentences, which seemed to basically amount to "Hey, did you make the heavens and earth? Did you make all this stuff all over the place? No? Well then, take what I gave you and stop complaining."

Well, at least I get to give my friend from Kansas shit about it. (The news article, that is)

Mental wrote:I've tried to read the Christian Bible...but wordy isn't the word to describe it in my opinion.

Huh? Didn't <a href="http://www.bobsagetisgod.com/bible.html">seem that bad</a> to me. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

All righty, smart ass.

I guess I was reading a <a href="http://bible.gospelcom.net/">different translation</a>, or something.

I've read the bible a couple of times, it's not great literature but I really enjoy the mythological stories in the old testament. I also very much enjoy reading Greek, Roman, and Norse mythology.

If people are going to believe a creation myth in this day and age over the science of biology, then I have two words to describe them, "primitive" and "ignorant". I could have understood if it were the year 1875, but we are generationsl past that, it is 2005. I am sure they have a couple of words for me as well, but blasphemer and infidel don't bother me.

I have no problem with creationism being taught in schools, but only so long as it is taught in a mythology course alongside Beowulf, the labours of Hercules, and Apollo and Daphne.

Hmmm.... well to be honest, I'm an evolutionary creationist... and a Wiccan... ^_^

There's nothing wrong with thinking that God is using evolution to mold humans in their own image. That is compatible to science, as it puts a religion reason for a scientific event. However, the Earth is simply not 10K years old.

"I asked this guy, I said, 'Come on man, Dinosaur fossils. What's the deal?' 'Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith.' 'I think God put you here to test my faith, dude." -- Bill Hicks (of course)

Interesting factoid: During the Snopes trial early last century, one point conceded by William Jennings Bryan (the creationist lawyer) against Charles Darrow was that a "day" as defined in the Bible in Genesis might not have been 24 hours. Seemed kind of like what you're talking about.

I have serious issues with the "intelligent design" argument as well, but that's a whole other ball of wax.

Well, the major problem I have with every creationist theory I have come across is that they are all geocentric, when we now know that Earth is but a particle orbiting a spec of dust in the Universe.

I have no problem with people who have a belief in higher spiritual beings or powers, I just really think that creationsit theories take things past the borderline between mythology and reasonable beliefs.