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Your favorite band sucks, and you have terrible taste in movies.
 #173280  by Julius Seeker
 Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:36 pm
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Keffe D., former leader of the Southside Compton Crips, was arrested today for the murder of Tupac Shakur.

Orlando Anderson, Deandre Smith, and Terrence Brown were in the car with Keffe D.

Anderson was also the nephew of Keffe D. He is the one who was assaulted by Shakur, Knight, and their entourage in the lobby after the Mike Tyson fight.

Zip - was the head of security for Biggie Smalls as well as the godfather of his child. Also a former associate of Sean Puff Daddy Combs. He allegedly bankrolled and was ultimately responsible for the Crip members being in Las Vegas with a goal of having Tupac and Suge murdered.

Of the five pictured above, Keffe D is the only one surviving today.
 #173306  by Julius Seeker
 Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:00 pm
I was reading some updates. Then this song came to mind - most people just took it as NYC vs Westside gimmickry with Biggy and Puff Daddy effectively launching a death threat/severe retaliation threat against Tupac Shakur in the form of this (and lets be real) awesome song:

 #173313  by Julius Seeker
 Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:19 pm
I think that people knew who was behind it for a while. But why they didn't act?

At the very least, Biggie knew the crips were behind it even if the song was just gimmickry.
"Look what you made me do, my team in the marine blue"

Also, Keffe D was caught ordering a hit on a witness from jail. His attorneys claim that it was a misinterpretation, but... come on! We all know how organized crime works.
 #173394  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:58 am
Weirdo British Guy with suspender pants in the 1990s: "Suge Knight orchestrated the deaths of Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls"
2024: "Diddy did it"

I mean, come on! I'm pretty sure we were speculating this probability back in the 90s. Then it seems that line of speculation disappeared, and somehow the focus went onto Suge.

Now... I'm not saying Suge is an innocent guy. I mean, as far as we know, he showed up to the NWA film shoot because he wanted to run into a couple of old friends (if that doesn't sound evil, re-read it a few times).
 #173452  by Julius Seeker
 Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:29 am
What sort of things? I know Suge had a lot of enemies, my initial thought was that it was a thing of the moment: an attack by Bloods on Crips, and a retaliation driveby, and Tupac taking the brunt.

The question begged us: what were these well known Crips doing in Vegas? I mean, I know it could be a coincidence - it’s not the rarest thing in the world to meet people you know at random events several cities away if you’re into the same stuff. And boxing matches tend to bring out the gangsters - at least that’s the case here in Canada with the Rock Machine, Angels, and Satan’s Choice (merged into the Angels).
 #173460  by Replay
 Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:26 am
My understanding is that Suge didn't kill Pac. Pac did not die in Vegas. Suge hid Pac from the Rampart Division of the LAPD by helping him fake his death, which is why his subsequent album is full of "Makaveli" imagery (Machiavelli being the Italian prince who advocated faking one's death to escape from one's enemies).

Remember, Rampart was full of some of the most crooked police LAPD had ever seen. As a native Angeleno myself I promise this is not a low bar.

Pac lived a long and productive life in hiding and seclusion releasing new tracks as a "dead" man, like this brilliant jam supposedly remixed from a "lost" 2Pac verse by the Outlaws.



I will eat an entire bag of hempseed waffles if that jam was remixed from a dead man's verse. I did the indie hip-hop producer thing for a couple years in L.A., hanging out with some of Soul Assassins' many weed dealers (the Cypress Hill extended crew, if anyone's interested), having such fun times as meeting DJ Muggs once in person. I have a hilarious memory of being high as a kite one day, helping a member of Dilated Peoples cart their gear out after a show at some impossibly small venue. I hope I didn't dream it.

The Pac stuff I did *not* dream. I spent a lot of time looking into this. I absolutely do not believe Pac died in Vegas.

Whatever is happening with these schnooks, my theory is that it has a lot more to do with Diddy's "lIIuminati card" getting revoked because he tried to murder Drake and blew up Kid Cudi's car - no lie - I was shocked to my core when I found out about it. I think a lot of old grudges may be getting resolved now that Diddy can't protect his old Bad Boy crew anymore.

Honestly, they may deserve it given what an absolute violent criminal scumbag molester villain Did has turned out to be, but I still wouldn't believe the hype that these guys "killed Tupac" for a second.
 #173461  by Replay
 Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:07 pm
Just as a note:

I'm not used to forums where the threads are a year and a half old by the time I get to them. Obvs the date being 2023 and not 2024 blows at least a slight hole in my theory about Diddy's fall being related to this.

That being said, I still believe zero that these fuckers killed Pac. Something odd is up, and these guys are taking the fall for an event that I truly believe never happened.
 #173466  by Replay
 Mon Mar 31, 2025 12:49 am
I actually wrote a long article about Tupac's alleged murder and the holes in the story, back when I was writing for a website for one of The Game's publicists.

The formatting is off these days because I had to migrate the site to a cookie-cutter WordPress before the project sadly died, but the text is there, and it's a good read if anyone is interested.