*sigh* Being a part of marching band for 4 years I see that if this movie wasn't 85% black actors it would have had potential...

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Fine....stereotypical then.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Nope. Sorry. Heard it was stupid. Didn't watch it.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Wow, imagine that.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Ok, break it down for me, how so?</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Then why the hell would you use it as an example for anything?</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Name these oodles of movies that have come out in the past year that target the black population.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>'Cause you're an expert on Japanese cinema...</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Need I mention Spike Lee, who puts out movies like "Love and Basketball". The title alone turns me off. Let's talk about two black basketball players who fall in love. Seriously, we need to get the black audience away from the idea that basketball being the only career a black person's got. Now, if it was about a black business man/woman, or a couple of black scientists, maybe it would be a better movie. But it's not. I hate Spike Lee, because he does this with every one of his movies. He's an exploiter of "his own people".</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Where do you think the stereotypes came from? Asian action movies. I'm no expert on it, so ask somebody who lives there.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Kupek, some of us don't have a Politicially Correct Checker. Otherwise, I would have coded it in the script a long time ago.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I was just theorizing, and halfway joking anyway. If you didn't notice in the past five years, I do both a lot.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>White girls = rich upper class. Black girls = thieves.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>In the movie, the white cheerleading squad steals their routines from the black girls. (Which you should be able to deduce from Eric's post.) Trust me, comment on stuff you know about, you'll sound a lot smarter.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>That's what qualifiers are for.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Oh, bullshit. Spike Lee is - I may be wrong, but I can't think of any others - the most respected black director around. (In fact, I can't think of any other black directors.) I've seen the man speak at my school. He knows his shit.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Where do I think the stereotypes come from? Maybe Westerners stereotyping Easterners?</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Politically Correct my ass. People use that phrase as a shield for when they don't want to confront real problems.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/jul19 ... 0.shtml</a>

A Google search on "Spike Lee stereotypical" produced better reviews that I could write...</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>He said that the movie could have potential if it wasn't for the 85% black actors. There's nothing racist about that comment. It's simply a crack at the stereotypical "Afro-American only" films that exist simply to profit from the black audience.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>A movie like Barbershop is meant for all audiences, this movie is made for all audiences, just because the cast is %85 black doesn't discriminate from white band players being able to relate.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>unfortunately it does because they concentrate on a lot more culture and a lot less drumline</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Gee, it's on the World Socialst web site, it must be true.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Which, actually, you don't know, because you haven't seen it.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>That's what he meant, but that's not what he said.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>so I get called racist because I point out that there is in fact a distinction between races? The fact that they're black has little to do with what I said; you could substitute black for any other race and it would still be the same thing; that the movie focuses on that race's teen culture rather than what the movie is supposed to be about which in this case is a drumline.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>yet that's exactly what the trailer focuses on and the point of a trailer is to get an idea of what the movie is going to be about before you decide to see it</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>that is too what I said. I've asked many others what they thought I said there and none of them said anything about being racist</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Uh...they make other type of movies in Japan other than just action flicks. Sheesh. Sine, did you know your're perpetuating the stereoptype that "white American country boys stereotype other people"? =8^)</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Alot of my friends are band heads and they're psyched about this movie, you should see it before you pass judgement.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>A movie like that only has some white audience because it's funny, and white people like to hear black people crack jokes. Dead Presidents? Sorry, whitey no see that.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>what they make the drumline out to be is the main big thing in marching band that it is not. Sure it's a big part of the band but it's far from as important as they make it out in this movie-- I saw 1 sousaphone during the entire trailer and that's the only non-drumline instrument showed. Indoor Drumlines are one thing, but there aren't Outdoor drumlines; they're part of the entire marching band yet are glorified in this movie.

I've been a part of 4 years worth of HS football games & competitions and never has there ever been a "drum off" or whatever that showdown was in the trailer. So not only does this movie lose focus on what the movie's about, but it's Hollywood-ed to hell when it does.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Silly me, I should have asked this from the beginning: how many of Spike Lee's movies have you seen? If you haven't seen any - or at least read or heard the man - don't comment on him.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>That is what you explained, but the first thing you said was "*sigh* Being a part of marching band for 4 years I see that if this movie wasn't 85% black actors it would have had potential..."</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>The point of the trailer is to get you to pay money to see the movie. Quite often, that point runs contrary to accurately portraying the movie.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Well, what YOU think it's supposed to be about. Your subject line is why you were called racist, not the rest.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Why are you still arguing with this ignoramous? Sine would actually argue with YOU about what YOUR favorite color is without ever asking you first. =8^)</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I'm a sucker, plain and simple.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>You're one to talk, Republican bastard!</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Yoy've never seen the battle of the bands?! oh my god you're missing out! Gramling and Southern University face off every year for the Bayou Classic!</div>