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Summer movies

PostPosted:Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:21 pm
by Zeus
Which ones are you guys lookin' forward to? The only two I can think of for me are the new Pirates of the Carribean and You, Me, and Dupree, which is a comedy from the Arrested Development guys. And I'm a little on the fence for A Scanner Darkly. Superman Returns is very much a wait and see movie, most likely a cheapy. Other than that, I didn't see anything on the radar that I'm interested in. Wondering if there are others you guys are lookin' forward to that I missed out on.

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:10 am
by Imakeholesinu
Clerks II? Miami Vice? A Scanner Darkly will definitely be a film to see.

Re: Summer movies

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:26 am
by Chris
Zeus wrote:Which ones are you guys lookin' forward to? The only two I can think of for me are the new Pirates of the Carribean and You, Me, and Dupree, which is a comedy from the Arrested Development guys. And I'm a little on the fence for A Scanner Darkly. Superman Returns is very much a wait and see movie, most likely a cheapy. Other than that, I didn't see anything on the radar that I'm interested in. Wondering if there are others you guys are lookin' forward to that I missed out on.
superman rdeturns is fantastic. don't just take my word on it


http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/stephenSchaefer/
June 9, 2006 on 10:41 am
“SUPERMAN”: A MAGISTERIAL RETURN
Posted by: Stephen Schaefer

Bryan Singer’s highly-anticipated “Superman Returns” was finally unveiled for the press Thursday night in L.A. (the print was finished at Technicolor at 2:30 that afternoon) and Warner Bros. must have given a sigh of relief when they heard the genuine applause at the finish. What Singer’s done is a dandy trick: He’s honored the tradition of Superman as a quintessentially 20th-century American myth and simultaneously given the Man of Steel a home (cinematically) in the 21st century.

This Superman returns from a five-year absence to find the love of his life, Kate Bosworth’s Lois Lane, settled into domesticity with a son Jason and a lover, Daily Planet editor Perry White’s nephew Jack (James Marsden), who also works at the paper. An unmarried heroine with a kid, a woman with two very different men in her life – and, oh yes, a Pulitzer Prize – what could be more contemporary?

Even better, Singer has transformed Superman, the alien from another planet with his extraordinary powers, into a majestic, awe-inspiring figure, not a kiddie comic book guy in tights. Like Apollo come to earth, like Atlas holding the world in the great Rockefeller Center sculpture, Bryan Routh’s Superman has a gravity that enobles this entire two-and-a-half hour picture. There is one dazzling sequence early on where Superman rescues a doomed airplane whose passenger list includes Lois Lane, his estranged true love. Singer of course couldn’t know that the sequence would echo the final moments of the horrifying 9/11 “United 93” but that it does – and that it has Superman for a happy ending – gives it perhaps a greater gravitas. Here is a fantasy that like Disney’s plaintive Oscar-winning wartime song, “When You Wish Upon a Star,” speaks directly to a need for healing from the brutal realities we face daily.

Singer has cast two of the surviving cast members from the Fifties “Superman” TV series. Noel Neill, Lois Lane, plays a dying widow under Lex Luthor’s thrall and Jack Larson, Jimmy Olson, appears as a bartender serving Jimmy (Sam Huntington) and Clark Kent drink. He even wittily manages to get in the famous phrase, “It’s a bird! It’s a plane!” and “Faster than a speeding bullet.”

More importantly, Singer straddles Superman’s time zones and eras. The venerable Daily Planet, with its golden globe atop the Metropolis City landmark building, is a Thirties building with 21st century hardware, flat-screen monitors, computers and faxes. Parker Posey’s wry comic relief as Kitty, Lex Luthor’s moll, is, right down to her name, an evocation of Hollywood’s spunky, wise-cracking Forties heroine Paulette Goddard (with a bit of Jennifer Jones). There is luminous Eva Marie Saint as Ma Kent once again in a movie, if only through screen magic, with her “On the Waterfront” leading man Marlon Brandon whose work as Jor-El, the father of Superman, is recycled to positive effect.

How the public responds to “Superman Returns” when it opens at 10 PM on June 27th is anyone’s guess but Singer & Co. can be content knowing they’ve managed not only to resurrect an American icon but done it with smarts, grace and even poetry. It’s going to be hard for any superhero movie to beat the magisterial bearing Singer so emphatically summons as in one memorable shot Superman is seen suspended in space, his dusty-colored cape twirling, an ancient god come from the heavens. Fittingly, the film is dedicated “respectfully” to Christopher Reeve and Dana Reeve.

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives ... perman.php


I saw Superman Returns last night, but I agreed not to run a review until opening day. If I left it there some of you might draw conclusions, so let me add without hesitation that Warner Bros.' caution is misplaced. I need to say at least one thing: I've echoed in this space the general interpretation of WB's decision to open Bryan Singer's film on Wednesday, 6.28, instead of the originally announced 6.30 debut, as a desire to maximize the holiday take before the dreaded onslaught of Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest the following weekend. This view was, in hindsight, partially misleading because it suggested that a better pure-entertainment, bang-for-your-buck element would be coming from Pirates. That will obviously be a matter of perspective as the days advance, but it seems highly unlikely (I almost wrote "inconceivable") that Pirates will surpass Superman Returns in terms of emotionality and embodying a resonant, fully developed theme. I was watching an interview yesterday with the late Don Simpson on the new Crimson Tide DVD, and at one point he repeated the old maxim that a good movie "can't just deliver action or theme-park pizazz or laughs or big stars....it's gotta be about something." No critic is going to argue that Superman Returns doesn't fulfill that demand, and if I owned a house I would bet it on the expectation that Pirates will be about two things and two things only -- good pizazzy fun (action, humor, attitude, production values) and a total lack of regard for Simpson's Law. The other thing is that I don't get is the Advocate- cover idea that SR would have some kind of homoerotic subcurrent. They were dreaming -- this is a film about purity of spirit. One final thing: Superman Returns is opening simultaneously in IMAX theatres on 6.28, and about 20 minutes worth (i.e., "selected scenes") will be show in IMAX 3D. The press was shown a preview of how the 3D footage will look last night after the main screening, and it's mindblowing. There's an airborne action sequence in particular that delivered, for me, the greatest sensory thrill I've ever experienced from a mainstream movie in my life. There's no question that anyone within reach of an IMAX presentation of this film HAS TO SEE IT THIS WAY. (Singer has worked out a green light-red light system that will tell moviegoers when to put on the glasses just before a 3D section begins.) Trust me, catching it this way will be an absolute knockout.

"SUPERMAN RETURNS" SPOILER FREE MINI-REVIEW
by Jonah Weiland, Executive Producer
Posted: June 9, 2006


I have to admit, as I grow older, my interest in big summer blockbusters has waned, but there are some exceptions and, naturally, most of those are the comics-based films. My anticipation for the film "Superman Returns" was off the charts, which concerned me - was there any chance this movie could live up to my expectations? Well, CBR News was invited to a screening of the film Thursday night and I can say with total confidence that it was everything a comics fan - and movie fan - could hope for.

Yes, it's that good.

With superhero adaptations to film, one crucial element is often missing: heart. That's not the case with this movie. The story -- which you can read more about here on CBR in the coming weeks -- is founded wholly on that most solid yet intangible emotional core of all the great Superman tales. Credit this to director Bryan Singer, who, as he did with the first two installments of the X-Men feature franchise, demonstrated his unmatched skill in bringing to the surface the human sides of some decidedly inhuman characters. Despite the fact that Superman is an alien, Earth's Kryptonian protector seems at times more human than ever in this most impressive film.

Supporting Singer's tireless work, of course, is his controversial cast. I can say to you now with full conviction that every actor in "Superman Returns" hit their marks perfectly. Kevin Spacey, who once won an Academy Award® under Singer's direction in the neo-classic, "The Usual Suspects," will surprise no one with his scene-stealing turn as the maniacal Lex Luthor. Brandon Routh turns in a performance that at many times plays as an homage to Christopher Reeve's legendary portrayal of Superman while managing to prove scene-after-scene that he now owns the role. Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane is the biggest surprise. I was worried her young age and appearance didn't suit the role of one of if not the most sophisticated supporting characters in comics history, but the actress pulls it off with a convincing maturity and grace. Special note is due, I think, to Sam Huntington for his portrayal of Jimmy Olsen. Not just a loser to be kicked around by the demonstrative Perry White (although that certainly does happen), Huntington's Olsen is remarkably natural and fun.

To say "Superman Returns" contains high-flying action may be the greatest understatement since, well, "You will believe a man can fly." Breathtaking. Exhilarating. Truly awesome. These are just some words to describe the super-feats of "Superman Returns." You're left clamoring; clawing at your seats for more and more, thinking, "the next movie can't come quickly enough." And believe me, it can't. Still weeks away from official release, you will find no spoilers here, but let's just say message boards all over the internet will be aflame with debate. Web servers may actually catch on fire. Putting it bluntly: nothing can prepare you for the things you will see in this film.

Look for a more extensive review and analysis of the film later this month right here on CBR.

From Supermanhomepage.com
Jeffrey Bridges


On the night of Thursday, June 8th I attended a special press screening (and IMAX 3D preview) of "Superman Returns".

Producer Chris Lee told us he came directly from Technicolor and we were technically the first audience to see the film.

A far more in-depth review will be coming in the future, but for now here's what I can tell you.

This movie is far greater than I could have ever anticipated, and I went in with extremely high expectations.

The effects, of course, do not disappoint. Several of the sequences are vying for the "most amazing thing I've seen on screen... EVER" and I've yet to decide which one tops the others.

But I didn't see many people questioning the effects, so on to larger issues. I am brimming with things I want to tell you. To reassure you about. To make you realize that this is really the Superman movie we've all been waiting before. But without details that will be hard to do. But perhaps my enthusiasm for what I've seen is coming through in this. At least, I hope it is.

James Marsden? Made me care for a character I had no real reason to. Parker Posey? Steals all her scenes. Eva Marie Saint? Touching and amazing. Frank Langella? A truly fantastic Perry. Sam Huntington? Best Jimmy EVER. Kevin Spacey? Easily the most sinister Lex to ever be seen on screen. A delight to watch. Kate Bosworth? Remarkably deep, tough and opinionated, just as Lois should be.

Brandon Routh?

There is no longer any doubt.

Brandon Routh IS Superman.

Routh and Bosworth have fantastic chemistry. Honestly, not a single performance was anything less than fantastic.

And the story? Well, that's what everyone wants to know, and the thing I can tell you the least about.

I still feel it inside me, honestly. It touched me. It's brilliant.

I hope this somehow does it justice, but I fear that I does not.

I have been moved.

I wish I could tell you more. I really do. I want to grab each and every one of you and make you understand how vital it is that you see this film. But perhaps my enthusiasm for what I've seen comes through in this.

At least, I hope it does.



You can read more spoiler-free reviews from the same press screening by other media outlets that were also in attendance: Boston Herald, Hollywood Elsewhere, ComicBookResources, BlueTights

here's another glowing review:
http://latinoreview.com/news.php?id=636

Why the World Needs to See Superman!


Three things are apparent about Superman Returns: Three things are apparent about Superman Returns:

* 1. Bryan Singer is on the fast track to being a legend.
2. Kevin Spacey's only limitation is the very few projects he works on each year.
3. Brandon Routh is... Clark Kent.

Superman Returns picks up right after Superman 2, after a 5-6 year trip back to his destroyed home world of Krypton, and boy howdy have things changed when he gets back. In his absence Lois has gotten engaged, Clark Kent has supposedly been soul-searching around the world, and the world has just seemingly moved on, without him. The big question is: Does the world need a savior? The timely answer is one of the most gorgeous uses of special effects as Superman makes his grand entrance just in time to save a crashing plane. Now I don't want to give away too many of the goodies, but trust me: this film is loaded like an Easter Bunny that was planning on going on strike.

If you have any misgivings about the castings, as I've already mentioned, Brandon and Kevin are unbelievably good so count on many chills going up and down your spine. Watching them is like watching the comic come to life. Bosworth cannot be over looked, in fact - given the reaction to Katie Holmes in Batman Begins - I could envision her being the biggest gamble in the audience's mind. You'll be happy to know that she pulls it off in spades. I never once saw her as anything other then Lois Lane, it is a career defining roll for her — now she'll always be Lois. The rest of the cast did well especially Sam Huntington who plays Jimmy Olsen, he knocks that performace out of the ballpark.

Lastly, Superman Returns is coming to IMAX and I have got to tell you: bring an extra pair of shorts. It's not just good. It's not even great. It's spectacular! It will BLOW YOUR MIND! Whatever technique IMAX does to the film is just jaw dropping; Superman saving a crashing plane honestly feels like he's in the room with you. It'll be 20 minutes of the film that is converted to IMAX and I think I want to see it like 20 times. I'll see y'all in line at the IMAX theater! What a great way to start the summer! A triumphant Return!

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:41 am
by Lox
Yay for Superman Returns! :)

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:47 pm
by Julius Seeker
Pirates is all I am looking forward to.

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:55 pm
by Zeus
Barret wrote:Clerks II? Miami Vice? A Scanner Darkly will definitely be a film to see.
Wasn't a big fan of the original Clerks, so it's a give or take for me. If a bunch of friends are going, maybe. Miami Vice I'm mildly interested in, more because of Mann's past films that I really enjoyed (Heat, The Insider) and the fact that it's NOT the show, which would be a bit lame IMO. But I could just as easily wait for it for free on PPV.

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:20 pm
by Nev
Final Fantasy XII

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:00 pm
by Julius Seeker
Whoah! I forgot Clerks =)

Re: Summer movies

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:41 pm
by Zeus
Chris Hansbrough wrote:
Zeus wrote:Which ones are you guys lookin' forward to? The only two I can think of for me are the new Pirates of the Carribean and You, Me, and Dupree, which is a comedy from the Arrested Development guys. And I'm a little on the fence for A Scanner Darkly. Superman Returns is very much a wait and see movie, most likely a cheapy. Other than that, I didn't see anything on the radar that I'm interested in. Wondering if there are others you guys are lookin' forward to that I missed out on.
superman rdeturns is fantastic. don't just take my word on it
Yeah, I heard about all these guys and the movie has a 100% freshness rating with 15 reviews, so I may be convinced to change my mind. It was really the trailer that put a sour taste in my mouth. But I may hold out for IMAX as it would seem this is a great way to watch it. If not IMAX, I may wait a few weeks and catch it on its tail end, I won't be standing in line for it

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:03 pm
by Julius Seeker
I don't remember liking the old Superman movies. It was a long time ago I saw them though. The last one I saw was maybe when I was 6 or 7, it had this blond haired guy, with very similar power and strength to Superman, who appeared after Superman threw a bunch of nuclear weapons into the sun. I don't know if I even finished watching the movie, I just remember the Super villain using his nails to rip into Superman's flesh.

This one might be good though.

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:27 pm
by Ishamael
Off the top of my head, I'm *really* looking forward to Superman 2, Miami Vice, and M. Night's new movie. A half step back is Clerks II.

Then there's everything else. There's probably some stuff I'm forgetting though.

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:39 pm
by Chris
The Seeker wrote:I don't remember liking the old Superman movies. It was a long time ago I saw them though. The last one I saw was maybe when I was 6 or 7, it had this blond haired guy, with very similar power and strength to Superman, who appeared after Superman threw a bunch of nuclear weapons into the sun. I don't know if I even finished watching the movie, I just remember the Super villain using his nails to rip into Superman's flesh.

This one might be good though.
1 and 2 were really well done. after that though they were so bad it wasn't even funny. the one you are talking about is 4 which is arguably one of the worst movies of all time. it's the batman and robin of the superman franchise. so bad it's not even funny bad. it's just bad. with superman 1 you had gene hackman making a great lex. although the hair was kind um....ok......superman 2 had zod which under the stamp was one of the greatest movie villains of all time. he was actually good enough that even I felt it necesary to KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:42 pm
by Zeus
Ishamael wrote:Off the top of my head, I'm *really* looking forward to Superman 2, Miami Vice, and M. Night's new movie. A half step back is Clerks II.

Then there's everything else. There's probably some stuff I'm forgetting though.
Shamalayan is a hack. Sixth Sense was excellent, Unbreakable was decent with a great ending, Signs was horrible from beginning to end, and Village was one of the worst pieces of shit in cinematic history. Based on the decending scale of his films, the Lady in the Water should be the worst film of all time bar none.

PostPosted:Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:50 pm
by Julius Seeker
I didn't like Sixth Sense, not my type of movie. Signs I actually did like until one certain detail at the end; Jesus! you'd think after three thousand years they'd figure out how to make a rain coat.

PostPosted:Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:38 am
by Ishamael
Zeus wrote:
Ishamael wrote:Off the top of my head, I'm *really* looking forward to Superman 2, Miami Vice, and M. Night's new movie. A half step back is Clerks II.

Then there's everything else. There's probably some stuff I'm forgetting though.
Shamalayan is a hack. Sixth Sense was excellent, Unbreakable was decent with a great ending, Signs was horrible from beginning to end, and Village was one of the worst pieces of shit in cinematic history. Based on the decending scale of his films, the Lady in the Water should be the worst film of all time bar none.
A hack? It always amazes me when people can unilaterally declare someone who has earned hundreds of millions of dollars creating films *way* out of the norm for Hollywood a "hack". To them, I say HUMBUG!

Theory: People call M. Night a hack because they aren't as suprised by his "suprise endings" for his subsequent movies as they were with 6th Sense. These people manage to ignore what *really* makes his movies brilliant. (Of couse I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're even capable of seeing this at all.)

And no, there's no way you can make me NOT believe otherwise about you. (YES my mind is closed. Learn to love it!) :)

I'm calling your wife and asking her to give you a ticket to Uwe Boll's latest creation at the nickel theater seeing as that probably suits your sensibilites more. I'm just hoping your bad taste has not rubbed off on her too! :)

PostPosted:Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:50 am
by Ishamael
The Seeker wrote:I didn't like Sixth Sense, not my type of movie. Signs I actually did like until one certain detail at the end; Jesus! you'd think after three thousand years they'd figure out how to make a rain coat.
HeLLoooOOO?! The creepy girl said the water was contaminated, HelLoooOOoo?! God you people are going to make me kill someone, preferably starting with one of the Canadians.

OK ok, in all seriousness, I concede the water point was a tad weak...I think M. Night tried to provide hints, but it wasn't well executed. But the movie, for me, wasn't necessarily about an alien invasion anyway.

PostPosted:Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:02 am
by Chris
i think the whole swing away thing was the lamest part of that one.

not only that but man the village was a massive pile of fecal matter wrapped in poo wraped in more shit.

unbreakable was my favorite of his flicks though. mainly because it was really the first of them to really suprise me with the ending twist.

sixth sense I loved but cought on to it about half way through the flick which actually is a good thing.

the thing that scares me about superman is wondering what they will be cutting. I mean he's cutting an hour of footage to cut it down to being a 2 1/2 hour movie.

PostPosted:Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:25 am
by Flip
Fuck the endings, i love his style. He uses the camera and actors better than any of you posers could ever do.

PostPosted:Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:54 am
by Julius Seeker
Flip wrote:Fuck the endings, i love his style. He uses the camera and actors better than any of you posers could ever do.
Regardless of whether or not anyone here is even a terrible director at best, it still doesn't change that most of us seem to find (at least the majority of) his movies uninteresting.

For the record, I never claimed to be a good director, did anyone else?

PostPosted:Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:12 am
by Zeus
Flip wrote:Fuck the endings, i love his style. He uses the camera and actors better than any of you posers could ever do.
Ever? That I doubt. It's not hard to shoot well when you have a good cinematographer working with you and I wouldn't exactly call any of the performances in his films Oscar-worthy.

I'm referring more to the plots of his films, all of which he wrote. It has nothing to do with the lack of surprise at the endings, it's the fact that they're unwatchable before you get to the endings. They're slow, awkward feeling, and you always get the sense that these things are going nowhere and are screaming for a great ending. There's nothing else on the way through, basically, just a bunch of plot devices that will be tied together in an ending.

Now, before you go and make a smart-ass remark about how all plots are tied together in an ending, go back to films like Fight Club where yes, it's all tied together with a great ending, but it's still fun to watch and has good elements before you get to that ending. That's what his films are missing. They just seem more like concepts with an ending than a complete film. Sixth Sense worked on the way through but was also helped by the fact it was his first and was fresh at the time. The rest haven't been so.

PostPosted:Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:17 pm
by Ishamael
Flip wrote:Fuck the endings, i love his style. He uses the camera and actors better than any of you posers could ever do.
Exactly. This is what makes an M. Night movie an M. Night movie in my book. But he's now known as the "Twist Ending Guy" and so most people will forever judge him by how much they liked the twist at the end.

PostPosted:Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:20 pm
by Ishamael
Zeus wrote:
Flip wrote:Fuck the endings, i love his style. He uses the camera and actors better than any of you posers could ever do.
Ever? That I doubt. It's not hard to shoot well when you have a good cinematographer working with you and I wouldn't exactly call any of the performances in his films Oscar-worthy.
Put me on the "ever" side.

I dare say if it were so easy and thus you could be the one earning hundreds of millions of dollars, then you'd be doing it. ;)

PostPosted:Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:23 am
by Chris
here is something. 11 scenes from superman returns. not trailers, actual scenes
http://www.iesb.net/warnerbros2006/061306.php

PostPosted:Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:55 am
by Julius Seeker
Hey, Oliver Stone is doing a movie about the World Trade Center on September 11th, and it stars Nicholas Cage.

If I didn't know how sensitive people here were, I would make a very highly innapropriate comment =P

PostPosted:Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:21 am
by Chris
i think announcing your innapropriate commetn is innapropriate enough as it is there seek.

PostPosted:Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:55 pm
by Zeus
Ishamael wrote:
Zeus wrote:
Flip wrote:Fuck the endings, i love his style. He uses the camera and actors better than any of you posers could ever do.
Ever? That I doubt. It's not hard to shoot well when you have a good cinematographer working with you and I wouldn't exactly call any of the performances in his films Oscar-worthy.
Put me on the "ever" side.

I dare say if it were so easy and thus you could be the one earning hundreds of millions of dollars, then you'd be doing it. ;)
No, what I was saying is acting ability and cinematography aren't really THAT much under the director's control. Director's job is to organize and put it together, basically. You can have a great script, great cinematography, great acting, but if it flows like crap, who cares? Director basically makes the most out of the tools he's got. What you were referring to was the tools and not the directing ability. That's what I was saying.

PostPosted:Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:44 pm
by Ishamael
Zeus wrote:
Ishamael wrote:
Zeus wrote: Ever? That I doubt. It's not hard to shoot well when you have a good cinematographer working with you and I wouldn't exactly call any of the performances in his films Oscar-worthy.
Put me on the "ever" side.

I dare say if it were so easy and thus you could be the one earning hundreds of millions of dollars, then you'd be doing it. ;)
No, what I was saying is acting ability and cinematography aren't really THAT much under the director's control. Director's job is to organize and put it together, basically. You can have a great script, great cinematography, great acting, but if it flows like crap, who cares? Director basically makes the most out of the tools he's got. What you were referring to was the tools and not the directing ability. That's what I was saying.
Oh. so you're saying you *could* use the cameras and actors better than M. Night...if only you had a good cinemetagrapher? :)

I'll stick to the "ever" side. :)

PostPosted:Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:25 am
by Andrew, Killer Bee
Ishamael wrote:A hack? It always amazes me when people can unilaterally declare someone who has earned hundreds of millions of dollars creating films *way* out of the norm for Hollywood a "hack". To them, I say HUMBUG!
What is it with this, "A hundred million people can't be wrong!" reasoning that I've been seeing on the Shrine recently? People liking something does not make it good!

PS, Shmayalan is a hack.

PPS, Nah, not really. I think he's actually an excellent director but a crappy scriptwriter. I'd love to see him direct somebody else's script for a change.

PostPosted:Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:36 pm
by Zeus
Ishamael wrote: Oh. so you're saying you *could* use the cameras and actors better than M. Night...if only you had a good cinemetagrapher? :)

I'll stick to the "ever" side. :)
With a few years of practice? Hell yes!

PostPosted:Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:39 pm
by Ishamael
Zeus wrote:
Ishamael wrote: Oh. so you're saying you *could* use the cameras and actors better than M. Night...if only you had a good cinemetagrapher? :)

I'll stick to the "ever" side. :)
With a few years of practice? Hell yes!
Well, once you get that movie career off the ground and once the millions start rolling in, all I ask is that you save the guest house for me. I called first bitches, it's in writing! :)

PostPosted:Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:41 pm
by Ishamael
Andrew, Killer Bee wrote:
Ishamael wrote:A hack? It always amazes me when people can unilaterally declare someone who has earned hundreds of millions of dollars creating films *way* out of the norm for Hollywood a "hack". To them, I say HUMBUG!
What is it with this, "A hundred million people can't be wrong!" reasoning that I've been seeing on the Shrine recently? People liking something does not make it good!

PS, Shmayalan is a hack.

PPS, Nah, not really. I think he's actually an excellent director but a crappy scriptwriter. I'd love to see him direct somebody else's script for a change.
It's more to suggest that maybe you need to perhaps revisit any strong opinions you hold ("HE'S A HAAACK!"), moreso than to suggest they're right and you're wrong. Maybe he's not your cup of tea, but maybe other people see something in his work that you don't. (Of course vice versa is also true).

PostPosted:Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:06 am
by Chris
Hey ish man before you can lecture anyone on behavior you have to let lox out of your basement closet. Hard to trust people with dark secrets like that
Ishamael wrote:
Andrew, Killer Bee wrote:
Ishamael wrote:A hack? It always amazes me when people can unilaterally declare someone who has earned hundreds of millions of dollars creating films *way* out of the norm for Hollywood a "hack". To them, I say HUMBUG!
What is it with this, "A hundred million people can't be wrong!" reasoning that I've been seeing on the Shrine recently? People liking something does not make it good!

PS, Shmayalan is a hack.

PPS, Nah, not really. I think he's actually an excellent director but a crappy scriptwriter. I'd love to see him direct somebody else's script for a change.
It's more to suggest that maybe you need to perhaps revisit any strong opinions you hold ("HE'S A HAAACK!"), moreso than to suggest they're right and you're wrong. Maybe he's not your cup of tea, but maybe other people see something in his work that you don't. (Of course vice versa is also true).

PostPosted:Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:50 pm
by Ishamael
Chris Hansbrough wrote:Hey ish man before you can lecture anyone on behavior you have to let lox out of your basement closet. Hard to trust people with dark secrets like that

I let him out for 5 minutes per day for a bit of sunlight and to wash him down with the garden hose. Then of course, he goes back down to his rat hole. And to be fair to me, I haven't made a secret of it. :)