The Shrine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_52_Z8umHU

Looks good =o

I'll be the oldest kid there by 15 years =)

I hope it's good. I would love it to death.

As another piece of my childhoods gets molested

Zeus, I hate to break to it you, but all of those cartoons we liked as kids? They really weren't that good to being with. This actually looks <i>less</i> silly than the TMNT cartoons I remember.

Kupek wrote:Zeus, I hate to break to it you, but all of those cartoons we liked as kids? They really weren't that good to being with. This actually looks <i>less</i> silly than the TMNT cartoons I remember.

BLASPHEMY!



Actually, I'm just joking, I agree with you =)

Zeus wrote:As another piece of my childhoods gets molested

WTF are you talking about? It looks fucking great!

Yeah, so some of the dialogue is a little silly. That's been a feature of very TMNT incarnation except the original comics (and debatably even then). Did you see that sweet CG animation though?

Kupek wrote:Zeus, I hate to break to it you, but all of those cartoons we liked as kids? They really weren't that good to being with. This actually looks <i>less</i> silly than the TMNT cartoons I remember.

I've actually been watching a lot of those old cartoons from back when I was a kid recently. I got the GI Joe and Transformers sets when they were released and got about half way through both before work took over. Yeah, they're a bit cheesy in an 80's sort of way, but they're still very entertaining and good. And TMNT was always pretty fun and still is. I actually saw the original movie a few months ago on the satellite and very much enjoyed it. Sure, some of it is nostalgia, but it's not like I enjoy every old movie or cartoon I used to watch. I can barely watch the Smurfs anymore and that used to be one of my favs. But Darkwing Duck still rules, just not quite as much.

I just don't like how they're changing them for the worst. I'm all for updating (I'm one of the few who didn't mind some of the updates to Star Wars), but this is exploitation of a recognized brand. Same beef I have with the Transformers movie being updated improperly to be exploited by the media moguls.

But I agree with Nev, it looks very nice from a purely graphical point of view

Haha, oh man, I loved TMNT but the cartoon was <i>so bad</i>. So bad.

The cartoon was bad, but in a way that I found entertaining =)

Awesome trailer!

Zeus wrote:I just don't like how they're changing them for the worst. I'm all for updating (I'm one of the few who didn't mind some of the updates to Star Wars), but this is exploitation of a recognized brand. Same beef I have with the Transformers movie being updated improperly to be exploited by the media moguls.

But I agree with Nev, it looks very nice from a purely graphical point of view

Worst which how?

This looks slightly more faithful to the original than the TV show, which took fairly heavy liberties with parts of the plot. I mean, the TV show was fun, as many said, and I almost never missed it as a kid. That being said, as many others have noted, it doesn't really hold up these days.

The voices seem to be similar to the TV show, but at least to me, the tone seemed to be more similar to the comic - which was far more irreverent and edgy - than to the show. (Thank goodness.) Honestly, I have to say this looks far better than the TV show in every way I can think of.

TMNT isn't being made by Michael Bay, so what are you bitching about, Zeus?

Pearl Harbor still sucks.

SineSwiper wrote:TMNT isn't being made by Michael Bay, so what are you bitching about, Zeus?

Pearl Harbor still sucks.

Bay does blow ridiculous chunks.

I hope to hell I'm proven wrong on this one, but just going by Hollywood in general, it'll get brutalized.

Zeus wrote:I hope to hell I'm proven wrong on this one, but just going by Hollywood in general, it'll get brutalized.

Yeah, like those horrible TV/comic-to-movie transformations by Hollywood, including:

Spiderman
Sin City
Batman Begins
Jackass
X-Men
South Park
Beavis and Butthead

As long as it's not a known-to-be-horrible director, Hollywood has been doing pretty good with TV or comic movie conversions fairly recently.

SineSwiper wrote:

Zeus wrote:I hope to hell I'm proven wrong on this one, but just going by Hollywood in general, it'll get brutalized.

Yeah, like those horrible TV/comic-to-movie transformations by Hollywood, including:

Spiderman
Sin City
Batman Begins
Jackass
X-Men
South Park
Beavis and Butthead

As long as it's not a known-to-be-horrible director, Hollywood has been doing pretty good with TV or comic movie conversions fairly recently.

I do admit that recently they've gotten better as the nerds have become more respectable directors (I agree with the first three on your list, but Jackass just blows, X-Men 1 was decent, 2 was very good, 3 sucked, South Park was just a glorified episodes, as was Beavis and Butthead), but there's just as many bad ones, if not more. Still nothing's proven

South Park was just a glorified episode? Did you <i>listen</i> to the songs in it? They were hilarious, surprisingly clever and creative. Keep in mind "Blame Canada" got nominated for an Oscar.

That's okay. The Star Trek movies were just glorified episodes.

Generations and First Contact, I don't think so. The scope and production values were larger than even a season cliffhanger for them. Insurrection wasn't even a glorified episode. It was just a two hour episode. Nemsis was... well, I guess I'd have to actually remember something about Nemesis to pass judgement on it.

Nemesis may have been poor in regards to the other Star Trek movies, but had it been a 2 or 3 part mini-series within Next Generation, it would be praised among the best episodes of that series.

Some episodes of Voyager and Next generation really stood out. Although I know most people like the Borg, Klingon, and Romulan episodes. My favourite from Next Generation was about an alien race that spoke in metaphor, Captain Picard was thrown on a planet with him, and the two were fighting some Predator-like creature, and they could not communicate (Universal translators didn't work).

Starting at season 4 of Voyager, the quality of the episodes became exceedingly high; Season 4 had the Hirogen episodes (including the one where they take over the ship, turn it into a WW2 simulation), Message in a Bottle, the year from Hell (the one with Red from That 70's show), as well as Timeless (an episode where Harry and Chacotay go back to the past to prevent a major disaster). A lot of these episodes were near the quality of the movies.

Anyways, my favourite movie is Startrek 6: The Undiscovered Country. It was perhaps the most significant storyline in the history of the franchise.

Then as far as villains go: General Chang (played by Christopher Plummer), and Saron (played by Malcolm Mcdowell) are my favourites.

I love this scene from part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3cxTfLqi_E

Kupek wrote:South Park was just a glorified episode? Did you <i>listen</i> to the songs in it? They were hilarious, surprisingly clever and creative. Keep in mind "Blame Canada" got nominated for an Oscar.

I saw the movie in theatres and it felt like a large episode to me. And like their episodes, I find 1/3rd hilarious and the other 2/3rds boring and silly. I like their normal movies (Team America, Orgazmo, Baseketball) much more than South Park.

As far as Star Trek movies go I really enjoyed First Contact.

Eric wrote:As far as Star Trek movies go I really enjoyed First Contact.

The Borg are easily the most sinister enemies that Space-Fantasy has created.

Eric wrote:As far as Star Trek movies go I really enjoyed First Contact.

Yeah, that was the only one of the Next Gen ones that's really good (I very much enjoyed that one). Nemesis broke the even-odd rule (all the even numbered films are good, the odds aren't; Nemesis was tolerable) and I don't have faith in Abrahms for the next one (this is the man who created Alias and Lost after all). So maybe the one after?

Zeus wrote:Nemesis broke the even-odd rule (all the even numbered films are good, the odds aren't

I don't think that "rule" has seriously been applied since Star Trek 5.

I disagree with it anyways, I found part 2, 3, and 4 to all be good. The only really bad ones are 1, 5, and 10.

The Seeker wrote:The Borg are easily the most sinister enemies that Space-Fantasy has created.

I prefer Marvel's Phalanx.

SineSwiper wrote:I prefer Marvel's Phalanx.

WHOA! yeah! seeing that post brought back a lot of memories...... phalanx are pretty pimp.

The Seeker wrote:

Zeus wrote:Nemesis broke the even-odd rule (all the even numbered films are good, the odds aren't

I don't think that "rule" has seriously been applied since Star Trek 5.

I disagree with it anyways, I found part 2, 3, and 4 to all be good. The only really bad ones are 1, 5, and 10.

Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home, The Undiscovered Country, and First Contact were the best. Incidentally, those were 2, 4, 6, and 8 in the series. Nemesis was #10 and broke the rule.

bovine wrote:WHOA! yeah! seeing that post brought back a lot of memories...... phalanx are pretty pimp.

Yeah, one of the most interesting villians I'd seen in a long time.

SineSwiper wrote:

The Seeker wrote:The Borg are easily the most sinister enemies that Space-Fantasy has created.

I prefer Marvel's Phalanx.

I had to look that up. They are based in the Xmen world which is not really Space Fantasy at all (they go into space a few times). Ironically, you listed a enemy (supposedly more sinister than the Borg) that seems to be a rip-off of the Borg. Though, whether they are more sinister enemies or not, I have no idea.