The Shrine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwkjeefUEes

I personally can't stand Paris Hilton, but damn, I ALMOST, ALMOST feel sorry for her.

No opinion yet on Paris Hilton, but Sarah Silverman is human waste.

Yeah, I don't like Paris Hilton either, but I know what you mean.

Sarah Silverman is fucking hilarious. Anyone else seen Jesus is Magic? Comic gold. I can't bring myself to feel sorry for Paris Hilton. She's had a charmed life up until now, she's going to go to jail for a month, and then she's going to continue having a charmed life.

I have old Mr. Show episodes that Silverman is in that are pretty frickin funny.

Celebrity gossip is fun, so i like Paris. Also, her sex video is pretty hot.

Sarah Silverman is the funniest woman in the goddamn world. I loved the shots of Jack Nicholson... classic. I smell a law suit, 'cause Paris totally needs more money.

Sarah's just not that funny to me. As has been said before, you need to do better than "I'm a pretty girl and I tell sex jokes/toilet humor jokes" to really, actually be a comedienne. I can't figure out why she's so popular.

I almost felt bad for Paris. Almost! Not because she's going to jail, but because all Sarah Silverman had to say is "Paris Hilton is going to jail" in order to get a round of cheers. But, whatever.

Kupek wrote:Sarah Silverman is fucking hilarious.

Funny you say that considering her racist jokes, and you seem to intensly hate absolutely everything that is not 100% politically correct.

You think that because that's how you rationalize it when I call you out for being stupid.

Sarah Silverman is funny because her punchlines are unexpected. When a joke goes off in a direction you weren't expecting, you're caught off guard, and you laugh. Her delivery is also paced perfectly. As for how she gets away with her act, I think it's because it's clear that she's pretending to be this person, and you're just as much laughing at this person as at the joke itself.

Not really, Kup. Her timing seems way too rehearsed for me to really enjoy it. The best comedy, to me, is very spontaneous, and I don't get that impression from her really.

Silverman is decent, her CC show "Sarah Silverman Project"was pretty good.

Paris deserves the worst treatment humanity has to offer...she needs to be shanked in prison and slowly die as everyone stands around her and laughs.

You're really kind of a hater at heart there, aren't'cha, Tess?

Yeah, it's funny that Paris is right there for the jokes, but let's be honest here: the bitch just barreled through a red light, got in a huge wreck, and drove off.

Kupek wrote:You think that because that's how you rationalize it when I call you out for being stupid.

Your idea of calling someone out for being stupid is whining about things you find offensive, no matter how trivial.


Tessian, not sure where you get this hate for Paris Hilton from, but I found a video for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg3pmMQyIkM =P


Anyway, what it all boils down to is that Sarah Silverman is just trying to vulture off of someone much more famous than her, lame.

Seeker, will you please quit calling people stupid? Kupek, same to you, too. I'm tired of the bullshit drama on these threads.

The Seeker wrote: Anyway, what it all boils down to is that Sarah Silverman is just trying to vulture off of someone much more famous than her, lame.

Nah, she's just doing current event jokes, she's gone after other celebrities in the news.

Paris is a horrible human being that deserves only the death I outlined prior. Aside from her being her, any person who DUI's deserves something horrific happen to them... something along the lines of having a limb slowly sawed off and cauterized with an iron. I consider drunk driving one of the few acts a person can perform that should never be forgiven. Since the limb thing is too much, we should at least bring back labeling-- shunned from society.

And since this is Paris...just cut off all her limbs and hang her from the town square.

Lol, i dont think ive ever met someone who hasnt driven drunk/tipsy/few drinks, people just dont get caught that often.

Man, you must be that annoying ass guy at parties who takes keys and wont let anyone leave, even if they just played a few games of beerpong.

Flip wrote:Man, you must be that annoying ass guy at parties who takes keys and wont let anyone leave, even if they just played a few games of beerpong.

Yeah, fuck those dudes with a social conscience. You can definitely trust someone under the influence of a psychoactive drug to know how that psychoactive drug has affected their vision, information processing, reflexes and coordination. I mean, what harm could come of them being wrong?

Oh, right. In the USA, alcohol-related motor vehicle accidents kill someone ever 31 minutes, non-fatally injure someone every two minutes, and cost about fifty-one billion dollars a year. (<a href="http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/drv ... >source</a>)

Heh, I couldn't imagine there was somebody here that was sympathic to drunk drivers. Granted, everybody has done it once or twice in their youth, but most should feel guilty about it and vow to never do it again.

Sympathetic? No. But, when i go out to a bar i know 90% of the people in there are driving home after drinking beers and i know i'll be doing it, too. I wont be shit faced watsed, but i probably would blow the .08 'Smell alcohol fumes and fail' measly limit...

Does noone ever go out here? Even when i take the metro (subway) i have to drive to and from the station, you cant avoid it in the suburbs.

The reason Paris is going to jail is that she got caught for a DUI, then several months later while on probation for the DUI she was caught doing 70MPH in a 35MPH zone with a suspended license.

I drove home shitfaced once, and I've been buzzed a few more times, but there's a difference between doing that and doing 70 in a 35 with a suspended license for a DUI. I mean, come on now. I don't even think I did above 65 on the freeway the night I was tossed up - if you're going to do that, you kind of have to not think like a ____ing fool. Something tells me Paris may have driven drunk just one or two times beyond the time she actually got caught for.

I'm not saying that I won't feel slightly bad for her if she gets her ass beat in jail or whatever, but she's almost certainly had many chances to stop partying like an idiot.

and... she's out.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070607/ap_ ... ris_hilton

LOS ANGELES - Paris Hilton was released from a Los Angeles County jail early Thursday because of an unspecified medical problem and will fulfill the remainder of her sentence for probation violation in home confinement, a sheriff's spokesman said.

The 26-year-old hotel heiress was sent home shortly after 2 a.m. wearing an electronic monitoring ankle bracelet, sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said.

Hilton was sentenced to 45 days for violating her probation in a reckless driving case, but had been expected to serve 23 days in jail because of state rules allowing shorter sentences for good behavior.

She ended up spending three full days at the all-women's facility in Lynwood, but because she checked in late Sunday and left early Thursday, authorities credited her with five days of time served. She'll be confined to her Hollywood Hills home for 40 days.

"I can't specifically talk about the medical situation other than to say that yes, it played a part in this," Whitmore said.

Hutton didn't immediately return calls seeking comment Thursday. Nor did her publicist, Elliot Mintz.

Whitmore refused to answer questions from reporters when asked if the medical condition was physical or psychological. He said it was not a staph infection. The jail provided Hilton with a pamphlet on the skin infection when she checked in.

The conditions of Hilton's home confinement were not immediately disclosed. Whitmore referred all questions to the L.A. County Probation Department. Messages left for the person handling media calls weren't immediately returned.

Hilton had surrendered to authorities with little fanfare late Sunday after a surprise appearance at the MTV Movie Awards, where she worked the red carpet in a strapless designer gown.

"I am trying to be strong right now," she told reporters at the time. "I'm ready to face my sentence. Even though this is a really hard time, I have my family, my friends and my fans to support me, and that's really helpful."

Hilton was housed in the "special needs" unit of the 13-year-old jail, separate from most of its 2,200 inmates. The unit contains 12 two-person cells reserved for police officers, public officials, celebrities and other high-profile inmates. She didn't have a cellmate.

Hilton's lawyer, Richard A. Hutton, said Monday after his client's first night in jail that she was doing well under the circumstances.

"She's using this time to reflect on her life, to see what she can do to make the world better and hopefully, in my opinion, to change the attitudes that exist about her among many people," Hutton said after visiting Hilton.

When Hilton was sentenced May 4, Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer ruled she would not be allowed any work release, furloughs or use of an alternative jail or electronic monitoring in lieu of jail.

Whitmore said Thursday that Sauer "was consulted and he was advised."

Officers arrested Hilton in Hollywood on Sept. 7. In January, she pleaded no contest to the reckless-driving charge and was sentenced to 36 months' probation, alcohol education and $1,500 in fines.

She was pulled over by California Highway Patrol on Jan. 15. Officers informed Hilton she was driving on a suspended license and she signed a document acknowledging she was not to drive. She then was pulled over by sheriff's deputies on Feb. 27, at which time she was charged with violating probation.

Yeah, I was just about to post that.

Well, whatever. I guess there are bigger miscarriages of justice to worry about.

I'm actually wondering why no one else here just cabs it on the weekend nights?

If you've never driven tipsy or buzzed then i call b.s.

According to Tess we should all have a limb sawed off.

Even when i take the metro (subway) i have to drive to and from the station, you cant avoid it in the suburbs.

Taxi.

Flip wrote:If you've never driven tipsy or buzzed then i call b.s.

According to Tess we should all have a limb sawed off.

We have differing definitions of DUI's-- I would normally consider it over the legal limit...but even now that's getting a little too low. I have no issue with having 1-2 drinks and driving home, even though I'd wait at least an hour to drive anyway. I'm talking about people who have no business being behind a motor vehicle and them being so puts others on the road in danger.

As for Paris getting out-- I can't believe this shit. If it were ANYBODY ELSE they'd still be in jail and for 2 years instead of 20 days! Is everyone going to let this rapeage of the justice system by the rich? I mean come-fucking-on!

After a close call one night I've started calling a cab or using a DD. Fuck that shit if I'm going to drive drunk. Sucks that I live so far away from the good bars though. I've got two casino's I could drink at but how desperate would I be to pick up a chick at a fucking casino?

Yeah Paris getting out really hurts the justice system. California law is now the laughing stock of the country. It really means now that celebs are now considered "Above the Law". A medical condition...my fucking ass. She's having panic attacks because she's been so doped up with whatever she's coming down hard. (The panic attack thing I made up but I wouldn't put it past her to use that tactic to get out.)

Don't quote me on this just yet...but there are unconfirmed reports that the DA and/or Judge have called Paris back to jail...the Sheriff is in an assload of trouble cause it sounds like she decided this on her own.

Tessian wrote:Don't quote me on this just yet...but there are unconfirmed reports that the DA and/or Judge have called Paris back to jail...the Sheriff is in an assload of trouble cause it sounds like she decided this on her own.

Yeah, heard that on the radio today. There actually should be a decision by now, but I don't care to look for it

Barret wrote:Yeah Paris getting out really hurts the justice system. California law is now the laughing stock of the country. It really means now that celebs are now considered "Above the Law". A medical condition...my fucking ass. She's having panic attacks because she's been so doped up with whatever she's coming down hard. (The panic attack thing I made up but I wouldn't put it past her to use that tactic to get out.)

That actually sounds like a pretty probable description of what's going on, dude. If you've been hopped up for...well, a few years, probably, when you detox you're going to wig out.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/0 ... index.html

She just got taken back to jail, literally kicking and screaming. That's a bad, bad meltdown, right there.

Nev wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/0 ... index.html

She just got taken back to jail, literally kicking and screaming. That's a bad, bad meltdown, right there.

Gotta agree with the judge.

I think the judge needs to sentence the parents to 45 days in jail as well, for raising this bitch they way she is. Good parenting would have trained her behavior a 100 times better.

Also, her visit to the MTV Movie Awards was a surprise, so I imagine that the jokes weren't intended to have her in the audience.

Ok, before this whole fiasco she was supposed to spend 23 days in prison correct? Now the judge sentenced her to the entire 45? Am I correct? If so, WAY TO GO JUDGE!!!

Barret wrote:Ok, before this whole fiasco she was supposed to spend 23 days in prison correct? Now the judge sentenced her to the entire 45? Am I correct? If so, WAY TO GO JUDGE!!!

It was 45 days and she would be eligible to get out in 23. Now because of this BS going on she'll prob do the entire 45.

Barret wrote:Ok, before this whole fiasco she was supposed to spend 23 days in prison correct? Now the judge sentenced her to the entire 45? Am I correct? If so, WAY TO GO JUDGE!!!

I don't think she's going to prison. AFAIK most sentences under two months or so are usually in a city or county jail, which isn't pleasant, but is a far cry from prison. I dunno the specifics, but usually you don't go to prison for a reckless driving charge unless you kill someone or are a serious repeat offender, I think anyway.

Nev wrote:

Barret wrote:Ok, before this whole fiasco she was supposed to spend 23 days in prison correct? Now the judge sentenced her to the entire 45? Am I correct? If so, WAY TO GO JUDGE!!!

I don't think she's going to prison. AFAIK most sentences under two months or so are usually in a city or county jail, which isn't pleasant, but is a far cry from prison. I dunno the specifics, but usually you don't go to prison for a reckless driving charge unless you kill someone or are a serious repeat offender, I think anyway.

I'm not sure exactly where she is...some say county jail, but then again she's in the "special" section where they put cops and high level white peop...I mean collar criminals.

During sentencing the judge SPECIFICALLY said she could NOT spend any of this time under house arrest...and the sheriff goes and pulls this shit. wtf?

Tessian wrote:

Nev wrote:

Barret wrote:Ok, before this whole fiasco she was supposed to spend 23 days in prison correct? Now the judge sentenced her to the entire 45? Am I correct? If so, WAY TO GO JUDGE!!!

I don't think she's going to prison. AFAIK most sentences under two months or so are usually in a city or county jail, which isn't pleasant, but is a far cry from prison. I dunno the specifics, but usually you don't go to prison for a reckless driving charge unless you kill someone or are a serious repeat offender, I think anyway.

I'm not sure exactly where she is...some say county jail, but then again she's in the "special" section where they put cops and high level white peop...I mean collar criminals.

During sentencing the judge SPECIFICALLY said she could NOT spend any of this time under house arrest...and the sheriff goes and pulls this shit. wtf?

Apparently Michelle Rodriguez (Spanish chick from Fast and Furious and RE) got off with house arrest on a similar charge. I'm sure that's what Hilton was lookin' for.

She also apparently had a party truck at her house yesterday for a party Friday night. I'm sure that impressed the judge much....

Zeus wrote: She also apparently had a party truck at her house yesterday for a party Friday night. I'm sure that impressed the judge much....

I have to question a justice system where a sentenced criminals can't have truck-loads of parties while under house arrest...

Fuck, if that ALONE doesn't feel like a fart in the face of the justice system I don't know what does...

I just realized that a potential outcome to this scenario has her writing a book about her "horrible" jailhouse experiences, which will sell 800,000 copies in its first week.

I guess I'd better start getting pissed about that now if I want to avoid having my head explode later.

Clips of Shepard Smith owning Paris:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=adc_1181333598
http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/iblog/C ... 608173046/

Freakin' awesome.

I think I like Paris Hilton, she didn't do anything to you guys and yet you are taking near aneurysms due to the anger she has caused you. I haven't been able to figure out what she did to make you angry, but I like her for it =)

Plus she's rich, and that's hot =)

The Seeker wrote:I think I like Paris Hilton, she didn't do anything to you guys and yet you are taking near aneurysms due to the anger she has caused you. I haven't been able to figure out what she did to make you angry, but I like her for it =)

Plus she's rich, and that's hot =)

Besides her arrogance and elitism attitude, she is basically right now the embodiment of the belief that the rich are above the law and this current event up until now was proving just that.

Well, actually and interestingly, I found out today that most people in Paris' situation *would* have been let out after four days. Most likely she's back in jail now *because* she's rich and famous, not the opposite.

There's a 10% rule in effect for "minor" offenses in California because our prisons are so crowded. After serving 10% of your time, if you're a nonviolent offender, they may either let you out, or put you under house arrest, to reduce overcrowding.

What the sheriff did was release Paris Hilton to house arrest for the rest of the time, which apparently isn't that unusual for someone in her situation. But the judge had a "no house arrest" stipulation on her sentencing, so that couldn't fly, and the media backlash on her getting out was *so* intense that I think the judge decided to just lock her up. But chances are, an "average" Hollywood housewife in her situation would be out by now.

Makes me think about things...

Nev wrote:Well, actually and interestingly, I found out today that most people in Paris' situation *would* have been let out after four days. Most likely she's back in jail now *because* she's rich and famous, not the opposite.

From everything I"ve heard, it really does appear to be grandstanding on the part of the judge. That sprinkled with jealously as well.

Wouldn't surprise me. I still don't think she should have melted down though.

She can talk about "it's not fair" all she wants, but as I mentioned, my friend's brother is doing a year and a half for being in the same room as someone who had a weapon, because he had a prior on his record. I'm not saying his offenses were right, but he's a product of his environment just as much as Paris is (broken home and the whole thing), and homie's doing some pretty hard time, in prison and not jail.

If you get 45 days for driving 70 in a 35 on DUI probation, you might want to consider that maybe you were taking some actions that weren't the best kind of thinking. Suck it up, do the damn time, go back to your lavish penthouses and luxury photo shoots. There are things WAY more unfair than actually serving your 45 days for driving like a high-profile idiot.

Though, for what it's worth, my mom thinks they should have given her house arrest and a massive fine. I had to think there was some logic in that. The state would make some money off this instead of paying for her incarceration, in that case.

Nev, if that were the case and this was a normal thing-- why did the Sheriff use the "undisclosed medial condition" excuse? It was all very shady on her part.

And why is everyone forgetting that the judge SPECIFICALLY outlined in the sentencing that Paris was NOT to spend any of her time under house arrest? He most likely said this because of that 10% rule you're citing Nev. It was clear during the trial that Paris just wasn't going to take responsibility for her shit unless he did at least this...her whole excuse was "I don't open most of my mail, my publicist never told me my license got suspended"...she's actually now quoted as saying that after this she intends to "take a more active role in the decisions I make"

The judge isn't grandstanding-- he's enforcing the damned verdict he put down that the sheriff underminded.

Nev wrote:There's a 10% rule in effect for "minor" offenses in California because our prisons are so crowded. After serving 10% of your time, if you're a nonviolent offender, they may either let you out, or put you under house arrest, to reduce overcrowding.

Maybe if consensual crime laws were banished, we wouldn't have fucking overcrowding in the jails.

"Government should allow persons to engage in whatever conduct they want to, no matter how deviant or abnormal it may be, so long as (a) they know what they are doing, (b) they consent to it, and (c) no one—at least no one other than the participants—is harmed by it."

Getting off my soapbox for a bit...

Nev wrote:Though, for what it's worth, my mom thinks they should have given her house arrest and a massive fine. I had to think there was some logic in that. The state would make some money off this instead of paying for her incarceration, in that case.

The point of putting somebody in jail is to punish them, to teach them a leason and hopefully learn that certain actions will lead to freedoms being taken away. A house arrest doesn't teach anybody anything and is a joke to the justice system. While it would earn more money for the state, in the end, it would end up taking the life of somebody else when she starts drunk driving again.

If I was a family member of somebody killed by Paris, I would be damn sure to sue the state (and the parents) for wrongful death, as it was their fault for going soft on Paris when she was caught. (Sometimes, the only motivator for change is a big lawsuit.)

Tessian wrote:Besides her arrogance and elitism attitude, she is basically right now the embodiment of the belief that the rich are above the law and this current event up until now was proving just that.

George Bush's group doesn't come to mind first?