The Shrine

The documentary on how the film was made was absolutely amazing! The Final cut, there were some subtle changes but it looked like the 1992 DC. Haven't watched the European theatrical release yet. Waiting for my girl to come home so I can watch it with her. Which version did you like the best?

Where's the "I've never been able to sit through the entire movie" option?

Only seen one of them and I don't know which. Sorry!

Philistines, the both of you!

Zeus incoming: "The voice-over improves the movie!" BLARGH

The '92 director's cut was a masterwork, but I can't vote as I've not yet seen the newest version.

I've been trying to find the non-DC version, because I have heard it was much better. There was actual narration (an inner monologue) that was cut from the "director's cut", and more of this implied notion that Decker was a Replicant. If you ask Ridley and Harrison if they thought Decker was one, you would get two different answers.

there's like 5 versions on the blu-ray version I picked up on boxing day. I still have yet to watch the final cut, so I'll vote when I have seen it.

SineSwiper wrote:I've been trying to find the non-DC version, because I have heard it was much better.

Arrgh! No, the voice-over'd version sucks. The voice over is a textbook tell-not-show mechanic, incredibly heavy-handed and awful.

SineSwiper wrote:There was actual narration (an inner monologue) that was cut from the "director's cut", and more of this implied notion that Decker was a Replicant. If you ask Ridley and Harrison if they thought Decker was one, you would get two different answers.

You've got the second assertion right, but the first wrong. Scott argues that Deckard was a replicant, and there are scenes in the director's cut not present in the cinematic release that hint at this: the unicorn dream sequence, for example. Harrison Ford was opposed to the idea, though, apparently thinking it tied everything off too neatly.

SineSwiper wrote:I've been trying to find the non-DC version, because I have heard it was much better. There was actual narration (an inner monologue) that was cut from the "director's cut", and more of this implied notion that Decker was a Replicant. If you ask Ridley and Harrison if they thought Decker was one, you would get two different answers.

The new 4-disc has 4 different versions on it, including the Theatrical, International Theatrical, Director's, and Final Cuts of the film (I believe only the Theatrical has the narration, which I loved; it was so good, they made an entire PC game based on that narration and film noir-style they had going) while the 5-disc Uber-Geekhead set also has a Workprint version, which is what the showed to the studio.

I've only see the Theatrical and Director's cuts so far. There's no contest there, the former is far superior.

Tessian wrote:Where's the "I've never been able to sit through the entire movie" option?

Seconded.

Zeus wrote:

SineSwiper wrote:I've been trying to find the non-DC version, because I have heard it was much better. There was actual narration (an inner monologue) that was cut from the "director's cut", and more of this implied notion that Decker was a Replicant. If you ask Ridley and Harrison if they thought Decker was one, you would get two different answers.

The new 4-disc has 4 different versions on it, including the Theatrical, International Theatrical, Director's, and Final Cuts of the film (I believe only the Theatrical has the narration, which I loved; it was so good, they made an entire PC game based on that narration and film noir-style they had going) while the 5-disc Uber-Geekhead set also has a Workprint version, which is what the showed to the studio.

I've only see the Theatrical and Director's cuts so far. There's no contest there, the former is far superior.

I want that workprint, but I think it is only out on HD-DVD. SAD PANDA!!!

Barret wrote:

Zeus wrote:

SineSwiper wrote:I've been trying to find the non-DC version, because I have heard it was much better. There was actual narration (an inner monologue) that was cut from the "director's cut", and more of this implied notion that Decker was a Replicant. If you ask Ridley and Harrison if they thought Decker was one, you would get two different answers.

The new 4-disc has 4 different versions on it, including the Theatrical, International Theatrical, Director's, and Final Cuts of the film (I believe only the Theatrical has the narration, which I loved; it was so good, they made an entire PC game based on that narration and film noir-style they had going) while the 5-disc Uber-Geekhead set also has a Workprint version, which is what the showed to the studio.

I've only see the Theatrical and Director's cuts so far. There's no contest there, the former is far superior.

I want that workprint, but I think it is only out on HD-DVD. SAD PANDA!!!

It's on my 5-disc Collector's Edition one, regular DVD

Zeus wrote:

Barret wrote:

Zeus wrote: The new 4-disc has 4 different versions on it, including the Theatrical, International Theatrical, Director's, and Final Cuts of the film (I believe only the Theatrical has the narration, which I loved; it was so good, they made an entire PC game based on that narration and film noir-style they had going) while the 5-disc Uber-Geekhead set also has a Workprint version, which is what the showed to the studio.

I've only see the Theatrical and Director's cuts so far. There's no contest there, the former is far superior.

I want that workprint, but I think it is only out on HD-DVD. SAD PANDA!!!

It's on my 5-disc Collector's Edition one, regular DVD

That's the one that was like 4 hours long right? The Workprint?

Barret wrote:

Zeus wrote:

Barret wrote: I want that workprint, but I think it is only out on HD-DVD. SAD PANDA!!!

It's on my 5-disc Collector's Edition one, regular DVD

That's the one that was like 4 hours long right? The Workprint?

Haven't seen it yet so I can't say. But the box says it's on there. It's the one with unfinished scenes that was shown to the studios as what the "final" movie was supposed to be like.

1up's games that were influenced by the movie:

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3165122

I don't know how the fuck Under A Killing Moon could be left off this list. You basically WERE Deckard, narration and all.

Zeus wrote:http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3165122

All they did was basically list any games that were remotely like Blade Runner, despite whether there was any real influence or not. Unless it's obvious, you can't really say that something influenced this or something influenced that without actually quoting a source.

SineSwiper wrote:

Zeus wrote:http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3165122

All they did was basically list any games that were remotely like Blade Runner, despite whether there was any real influence or not. Unless it's obvious, you can't really say that something influenced this or something influenced that without actually quoting a source.

What about Under a Killing Moon? That was ridiculously obvious. Am I the only one who's played that?

There is a small point in their feature. Blade Runner and Alien completely changed the landscape for sci-fi flicks and both have essentially been the influence, in one way or another, for all sci-fi related items that came after them. Even something like FF7 with their cyber-punk future, which can be related back to Shadowrun (the PnPRPG) which was directly related to Blade Runner.

Yeah, it was a pretty lame article. I was just shocked that Under A Killing Moon wasn't included.

This conversation reminds me of how my friend said Black Cat copied from something I've never heard of because the main female character said something very generic as she died.

Zeus wrote:Even something like FF7 with their cyber-punk future, which can be related back to Shadowrun (the PnPRPG) which was directly related to Blade Runner.

That's my point. FF7 was a Japanese game. I seriously doubt Blade Runner had much impact on the Japanese. So, why would a Japanese game be influenced by an American movie?

SineSwiper wrote:

Zeus wrote:Even something like FF7 with their cyber-punk future, which can be related back to Shadowrun (the PnPRPG) which was directly related to Blade Runner.

That's my point. FF7 was a Japanese game. I seriously doubt Blade Runner had much impact on the Japanese. So, why would a Japanese game be influenced by an American movie?

Because Blade Runner has the futuristic slum copyrighted?

Of course that's about as useful as saying anything people can power up must have stolen it from Dragonball.

The Japanese are fucking obsessed with the Cthulu Mythos, so I wouldn't say it's too hard to think Blade Runner influenced them as well.

SineSwiper wrote:Unless it's obvious, you can't really say that something influenced this or something influenced that without actually quoting a source.

Why do I need a source to say that Silent Hill was influenced by Jacob's Ladder? Or that Contra was influenced by American Sci Fi/Action movies of the 80's? Resident Evil=Romero Zombie flicks.

Which of these are obvious and which are not? And who are you to say what is and what isn't, Sine? HUH?! WHO ARE YOU TO SAY!!!!!!!1111!!eleven!

I'll just end this silly argument quickly:




Otomo had also been writing similar stuff nearly a decade before Blade Runner was released.

Dutch wrote:Otomo had also been writing similar stuff nearly a decade before Blade Runner was released.

Uh... no. Akira started being published the same year Blade Runner was released.

Also, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep was published in '68.

Andrew, Killer Bee wrote:

Dutch wrote:Otomo had also been writing similar stuff nearly a decade before Blade Runner was released.

Uh... no. Akira started being published the same year Blade Runner was released.

No shit, and he had been writing similar stuff for nearly a decade, but what's your point? It's not like that sort of thing was new to Japan, I mean, he based A LOT of Domu and Akira on his life growing up in 60's Japan. That was his largest influence, and there was also this:

Dutch wrote:No shit, and he had been writing similar stuff for nearly a decade, but what's your point?

You are a clown. Why'd you post the Akira image if not to suggest that it had been published prior to Blade Runner's release? And as far as his other stuff — have you actually read any of it? Domu was set in contemporary Japan, and is a supernatural horror story, rather than sci-fi. His first published work was A Gun Report, based on a French short story written in 1829; he didn't write sci-fi until Fireball in 1979, only three years before Blade Runner was released.

What is your point? That Blade Runner didn't have a huge cultural impact in Japan? I would probably agree, and I think Zeus is really stretching it to claim that FF7 was even tangentially influenced by BR.