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The Hobbit's budget: $300 million

PostPosted:Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:45 pm
by Julius Seeker
The latest is that Jackson will be producing, and also directing alongside Del Toro.

Much of the original cast will be re-appearing including major parts by Ian McKellan as Gandalf, Andy Serkis as Gollum, Christopher Lee as Saruman, and Ian Holm as the narrator Bilbo Baggins.

The plot point of the second movie will be based on notes from Tolkien's books including the Appendices of Lord of the Rings, writings in the Silmarillion. One of the plot points for the second movie will be the corruption of Saruman. The movie will essentially end sometime just before The Lord of the Rings, it spans over a 50+ year period beginning with Gandalf's departure to the White Council (Galadriel, Saruman, and Gandalf) in order to battle with an evil in the dark tower of Dol Guldur in the South of Mirkwood. As the story goes, Sauron had taken shape again in the form of a Necromancer who was gathering the Rings of Power; initially the White Council thought it was the Witch King of Angmar setting up a new abode. Anyway, that is the setting for the start of the movie. How Sauron and the evil will be depicted through the years between the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings is questionable, it was a relatively quiet period.

A major problem is Christopher Tolkien essentially owns all that had been published since the death of JRR Tolkien. So Peter Jackson may not be entitled to use any of them. I do hope something can be worked out though, if the movie isn't kept true to the notes then it will not really be viewed as a legitimate part of the story. There are currently a lot of court battles going on, including the major one where Christopher Tolkien is suing for ~80 million dollars share from the three billion dollars in profit that New Line made off of Lord of the Rings.

The Hobbit will be released Christmas 2010 and part two Christmas 2011.

PostPosted:Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:24 pm
by RentCavalier
Fingers crossed! Del Toro is my last hope for the future of fantasy movies.

PostPosted:Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:01 pm
by Julius Seeker
I still haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth, but I have yet to hear someone say something bad about it. Perhaps I'll give it a watch to know what to look forward to.

Re: The Hobbit's budget: $300 million

PostPosted:Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:38 pm
by Tessian
Dutch wrote: As the story goes, Sauron had taken shape again in the form of a Necromancer who was gathering the Rings of Power; initially the White Council thought it was the Witch King of Angmar setting up a new abode.
This is EXACTLY what LOTRO is telling right now... which confuses me because there's also sections of Frodo with the ring. But most of the Epic (storyline) quests deal with the Witch King of Angmar and trying to figure out who really is pulling the strings

Also, Pan's Labyrinth is quite good

PostPosted:Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:37 pm
by Imakeholesinu
Dutch wrote:I still haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth, but I have yet to hear someone say something bad about it. Perhaps I'll give it a watch to know what to look forward to.
You definitely need to give it a try...tonight.

In the words of Ahh-nuld...

DOOOO IT-UH DOOO IT-UH NAWWWOOW!

Re: The Hobbit's budget: $300 million

PostPosted:Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:51 pm
by SineSwiper
Dutch wrote:There are currently a lot of court battles going on, including the major one where Christopher Tolkien is suing for ~80 million dollars share from the three billion dollars in profit that New Line made off of Lord of the Rings.
<tt>-----80,000,000
/ 3,000,000,000</tt>

Equals 2.6%. Sounds more than reasonable. Why do movie producers want to fuck over the source producers so much?

Re: The Hobbit's budget: $300 million

PostPosted:Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:02 pm
by Julius Seeker
SineSwiper wrote:
Dutch wrote:There are currently a lot of court battles going on, including the major one where Christopher Tolkien is suing for ~80 million dollars share from the three billion dollars in profit that New Line made off of Lord of the Rings.
<tt>-----80,000,000
/ 3,000,000,000</tt>

Equals 2.6%. Sounds more than reasonable. Why do movie producers want to fuck over the source producers so much?
The press is constantly trying to turn people against Christopher Tolkien as well. I mean, I don't agree with him trying to block the movie production of the Hobbit, but I totally understand where he is coming from. I also have a great deal of respect for him; he is the last surviving member (for the past 10 years) of the Inklings; that legendary group that a lot of authors belonged to, including CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien.

I just bought a new book by JRR Tolkien, and edited by Christopher Tolkien; The Children of Hurin (it is a novelization of the legend of Turin Turambar and Nienor; one of the darkest tales written by Tolkien taking place towards the end of the First Age of Middle Earth when Morgoth was in control of most of the world and almost all of the Elf Kingdoms were in ruin).

Anyway, I feel New Line should pay up. They have already made an ass load of money with box office sales, DVD sales, and any other merchandise they have sold.

PostPosted:Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:51 pm
by Zeus
For the 2 films, that ain't brutal.

Why would Jackson direct after publicly saying Del Toro is the man? He's the producer and writer but it would be silly for him to direct now. Everyone knows they're his babies and he'll be on the set every day, he don't need to direct

PostPosted:Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:15 pm
by Julius Seeker
Zeus wrote:For the 2 films, that ain't brutal.

Why would Jackson direct after publicly saying Del Toro is the man? He's the producer and writer but it would be silly for him to direct now. Everyone knows they're his babies and he'll be on the set every day, he don't need to direct
Because Del Toro is the Unit 1 director and Jackson is the Unit 2 director.

PostPosted:Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:34 pm
by Zeus
I seriously hope you mean Film 1 and Film 2.....