The Shrine

Seen it? Seen it? I have. It's amazing--the best comic book movie ever made, and one of the best movies of the year. It's like a punch to the gut that just keeps digging and digging. Every performance is phenom, but Heath Ledger steals the show even from Christian Bale, and for good reason--the Joker in this movie is outright terrifying, and so relentless it's as if he's not even human.

Go see it. Now.

(Also saw Hellboy 2. That's pretty good too.)

Agreed.

The single complaint I had, which I also had with Begins, was that it was a little too long.

How dare you start a new thread, boy!!!


Yes, I saw it...it was amazing. Best movie of the year. One of the best movies of all time for me. I loved every second of it. Saw it for the second time last night.

Black Lotus wrote:The single complaint I had, which I also had with Begins, was that it was a little too long.

You suck. If a film is awesome, having it extend that awesomeness for 30 more minutes would make it 30 more minutes of awesome.

This is true, the length isn't a big deal because the plot is so twisty, but my legs were cramping up something fierce after awhile.

I just saw it, it was fairly good, probably the best blockbuster movie I have seen since Casino Royale. Not really any complaints.

Flawless, no other way to describe it.

Its so good, it doesn't even need a sequel.

Just got back from it myself... I got nothing to add that hasn't already been said. It had one HELL of a hype to live up to, and it surpassed it

wanna see a magic trick?

Chris wrote:wanna see a magic trick?

Hahaha omg I couldn't have imagined a better way to introduce him than that stunt.

Tada!

Black Lotus wrote:Agreed.

The single complaint I had, which I also had with Begins, was that it was a little too long.

I'm with you. A tad too long,but still an awesome movie. To be fair, I had to take a piss the last 20 minutes so that might have something to do with my opinion.

From a dramatic standpoint, it tops Iron Man and the Hulk (both of which are also excellent movies ).

Batman as a franchise has just been fantastic; at least as far as the Keaton/Bale movies go.

Dutch wrote:Batman as a franchise has just been fantastic; at least as far as the Keaton/Bale movies go.

Have you forgotten about the horror that was Batman & Robin, and to a lesser extent Batman Forever?

Tessian wrote:

Dutch wrote:Batman as a franchise has just been fantastic; at least as far as the Keaton/Bale movies go.

Have you forgotten about the horror that was Batman & Robin, and to a lesser extent Batman Forever?

Dutch wrote:at least as far as the Keaton/Bale movies go.

Black Lotus wrote:

Tessian wrote:

Dutch wrote:Batman as a franchise has just been fantastic; at least as far as the Keaton/Bale movies go.

Have you forgotten about the horror that was Batman & Robin, and to a lesser extent Batman Forever?

Dutch wrote:at least as far as the Keaton/Bale movies go.

Well, Batman Forever did star Val Keaton. And Batman & Robin did star George Keaton. Right? Right???

Black Lotus wrote:Agreed.

The single complaint I had, which I also had with Begins, was that it was a little too long.

I don't think running time is an issue if the movie's of good quality. If it feels like they added something to the end just to make it longer, yeah, it's a problem. But running time often ain't the issue. You can have a 90 minute film feel much longer than a 3 hour film.

RentCavalier wrote:Its so good, it doesn't even need a sequel.

It made $66M on Friday alone. It's getting a freakin' sequel

I read somewhere that Chris Nolan may not be interested in making a 3rd one. If that's the case, I might prefer they end it here so we don't get another Xmen 3 or something.

Lox wrote:I read somewhere that Chris Nolan may not be interested in making a 3rd one. If that's the case, I might prefer they end it here so we don't get another Xmen 3 or something.

Exactly. My basic thought is, if it's the same team, same crew, same everything as these past ones, it can't, y'know, suck. So, if Nolan comes back for a third, I'll come back with him...I just don't feel there's any real NEED for a sequel. Nolan's a good enough director to start making some more artsy indie flicks, like Memento.

Lox wrote:I read somewhere that Chris Nolan may not be interested in making a 3rd one. If that's the case, I might prefer they end it here so we don't get another Xmen 3 or something.

he said the same thing after the first one.

Chris wrote:

Lox wrote:I read somewhere that Chris Nolan may not be interested in making a 3rd one. If that's the case, I might prefer they end it here so we don't get another Xmen 3 or something.

he said the same thing after the first one.

Oh really? Well, then maybe he's just blowing smoke to try to get more money or something. I'd love for him to do one more. I'm just trying to think how he could do it that would stand up to this one.

Epic. Excellent story telling and excellent acting allthroughout. All of your naysayers bitching about the length is unfounded. Spoilers:









I don't think they would be able to tie up as much as they did with Twoface without the extra length. Otherwise you end up with a farce like Spiderman 3 that can't cope with multiple villians in one movie. If it's a good movie, let it run.

the only thing that annoyed me is that there was no Cris Allen and the ramirez arc really didn't seem logical especially when it's tied in with the Gotham Knights stuff

saw it, it had batman in it and it was good. That's all I need. Ledger did a great job in creating a solid Joker for the series. So who is going to be the next villain? The only possible tease came near the start of the movie for a possible catwoman.

bovine wrote:saw it, it had batman in it and it was good. That's all I need. Ledger did a great job in creating a solid Joker for the series. So who is going to be the next villain? The only possible tease came near the start of the movie for a possible catwoman.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say we want Mr (Governator) Freeze back!

Man, I would love for Patrick Stewart to play Mr. Freeze. That would be awesome. Especially if they did it with the Nolanesque realism. That would be excellent.

It shattered the first day and midnight opening box office sales. It also beat Spider Man 3 (which shattered the previous record) for opening weekend: Spiderman 3 had 151 million in sales, and Batman had 158 million.

I still havent seen Spidey 3, i cant believe it was the top weekender movie.

Flip wrote:I still havent seen Spidey 3, i cant believe it was the top weekender movie.

that now being a was is something to celebrate

Spiderman 3 also shattered the record, it beat the Pirates Movie which sat at 135 million.

God, Spiderman 3 sucked.

RentCavalier wrote:God, Spiderman 3 sucked.

we're still playing that game, are we?

What? I'm not even trolling, it was a ridiculous movie. The only good parts were the action bits, and even they got old fast. Venom was shoehorned into the plot with as much grace as a backhoe in a grocery store aisle, and Sandman is given maybe, what, three character-specific scenes to make us "feel" for him--there is precious little development of his character at all.

Spiderman and Mary Jane, meanwhile, just go off on their own to prove that Mary Jane is an emotionally needy bitch and Peter Parker, despite saving the world countless times, is a complete and utter pussy when it comes to women. The Symbiote thing was cool, I'll admit, and the first half of the film really worked pretty well--its too long for its own good.

Oh, and James Franco just fails in this movie, which is a shame 'cause I think he's a good actor. He's got this odd wooden quality to him, in between bouts of just sheer RAGE all the time, and his motivations for villainy are totally wack--especially that scene at the end (SPOILERS):

Where his Butler shows up to tell him that Spiderman didn't really kill his father

(END SPOILERS)

That scene just oozes poor plot direction. THREE villains, in one movie? Not only that, but three MAJOR villains, primary, nemesis-esque villains. These aren't like, bit player villains, these are some of Spidey's biggest foes, and they just aren't given any justice whatsoever. So, in summary:

God, Spiderman 3 sucked.

I agree. Spiderman 3 sucked. Rent's actually not trolling...cuz this time he's right.

Rent, what the fuck is the point of telling people the spoiler ended without telling them when it begins? :-)

BTW, Raimi's hand was forced when it came to Venom. There's a reason he feels forced...he was. What happened to Raimi with Spidey 3 is exactly why Marvel felt compelled to control their own franchises

And I'm glad Marvel stepped up--Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk are fun movies. Back to form, much like the first Spidey movie--which, coincidentally, is the best, though the second one is REALLY fucking good too.

Lox wrote:Man, I would love for Patrick Stewart to play Mr. Freeze. That would be awesome. Especially if they did it with the Nolanesque realism. That would be excellent.

The voice of Mr. Freeze on Batman seemed to capture his mood perfectly. That kind of cold-hearted persona will need to be duplicated for anybody who plays him.

EDIT: Yes, Spiderman 3 sucked. Or maybe "sucked" is harsh, but like X-Men 3, it was the worse of the trilogy.

SineSwiper wrote:EDIT: Yes, Spiderman 3 sucked. Or maybe "sucked" is harsh, but like X-Men 3, it was the worse of the trilogy.

Spider-Man 3 was so much better than X-Men 3. Just stab me next time, Ratner! Fuck you!

Lox wrote:Man, I would love for Patrick Stewart to play Mr. Freeze. That would be awesome. Especially if they did it with the Nolanesque realism. That would be excellent.

Oh god that'd be amazing. Schwarz was no good as Mr Freeze. Mr Freeze was a nerdy, skinny scientist hopelessly trying to save his dying love... not an ex-roid raging german bodybuilder.

I actually thought X-men 3 was good (and definitely much better than Spiderman 3).

I don't know if I'm in the minority on this one, but I thought that every xmen movie was terrible. It just seemed like they should have been called "Wolverine movie featuring the xmen sometimes". Too much glory on wolverine and everyone was a total douche (ESPECIALLY rogue). The mutants featured were either: wolverine (main character), storm-cyclops-jean grey (backup characters), rogue (was terrible and did nothing), or "miscellaneous xmen" who either weren't named directly or were featured so abruptly that they had one or two lines if any. The 2nd movie was alright, everything else was terribly subpar.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

What makes it so strong is that, when it's needed, they zero in on the characters. The interrogation scene between Joker and Batman and the hospital scene between Joker and Dent are what I'm talking about.

So after the X-Men movies, I noticed Wolverine in the comics started looking like how Hugh Jackman portrayed him. I think the same will happen with Joker.

Length: some movies can handle being two and a half hours, some can't. This one can.

I also loved how so much was inspired by Year One and Long Halloween.

best joker moments - making the pencil disappear and when he leaves the hospital.

bovine wrote:best joker moments - making the pencil disappear and when he leaves the hospital.

heh, I'll second that. Heath, why'd you have to die!!!!! It sucks knowing that we'll never see him in this role again. Damn brilliant actors and their drug problems...

I finally watched it. You know, I was pretty sure that all this Heath love had more to do with his death than his actual performance (everything thing else I saw him in, I didn't like)...but damn, the Joker was not only a well written role, but well performed.

Really good movie, didn't feel too long at all.

Ishamael wrote:heh, I'll second that. Heath, why'd you have to die!!!!! It sucks knowing that we'll never see him in this role again. Damn brilliant actors and their drug problems...

It was more like the drugs that were completely incompatible. He was taking six different drugs and they were all basically in the same category of downers, depressing the nervous system.

kali o. wrote:I finally watched it. You know, I was pretty sure that all this Heath love had more to do with his death than his actual performance (everything thing else I saw him in, I didn't like)...but damn, the Joker was not only a well written role, but well performed.

Surely you saw the trailers, though. I agree that I don't like the actor much in his other stuff, but you could tell just how engrossed in the role he was. One of my first comments was how Bale and Ledger both really worked on perfecting their character voices.

SineSwiper wrote:

kali o. wrote:I finally watched it. You know, I was pretty sure that all this Heath love had more to do with his death than his actual performance (everything thing else I saw him in, I didn't like)...but damn, the Joker was not only a well written role, but well performed.

Surely you saw the trailers, though. I agree that I don't like the actor much in his other stuff, but you could tell just how engrossed in the role he was. One of my first comments was how Bale and Ledger both really worked on perfecting their character voices.

Don't you guys DARE tell me you didn't love "10 Things I Hate About You"??!!

SineSwiper wrote:

Ishamael wrote:heh, I'll second that. Heath, why'd you have to die!!!!! It sucks knowing that we'll never see him in this role again. Damn brilliant actors and their drug problems...

It was more like the drugs that were completely incompatible. He was taking six different drugs and they were all basically in the same category of downers, depressing the nervous system.

I'd call that a drug problem. Weird how people act like he didn't have one just because all of his drugs were "legal".