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Hell no!! You cant improve on the original!!! ESPECIALLY not with Will Smith!!

I'll kill you if this happens, Flip.

And if it does, and you'll be dead, alternate ending confirmed.

This world needs more Will Smith remakes.

In 2009, Will Smith is... Beetlejuice.

Did you see the last thing on that news article: Spielberg is next expected to direct "Tintin."

I think I finally figured it out: Steven Speilberg has suddenly gone mad! He's out to remake shitty movies, or remake good movies into shit. First, Indiana Jones, now this and Tintin. Next, Schlinder's List... ... The Musical!

Schindler's List, the porno: Schindler's Fist.

Man, I thought I was bad with the Holocaust jokes...

I subscribe to the Carlin theory that either everything is off limits or nothing is.

SineSwiper wrote:Did you see the last thing on that news article: Spielberg is next expected to direct "Tintin."

Yeah, he and Jackson are each directing the first two (Spielberg first) and producing all three. No one knows who's directing the third

Black Lotus wrote:I'll kill you if this happens, Flip.

And if it does, and you'll be dead, alternate ending confirmed.

Damn, now i have a vested interest. *sigh* Guess i have to dig out the old plans on murdering Spielberg, thanks a lot!

I blame the Batman/Superman movies. They proved a total remake of a movie franchise, even one that hasn't been gone long, can make oodles of cash. Why bother trying to innovate when I can remake a classic that's guaranteed to at least make a little profit??

Maybe, but I don't expect this kind of behavior from Spielberg.

I am actually really excited about the Tintin moves, the filming of the first is going to be done before the Hobbit while the second and third will be after. I've always thought these stories needed a higher budget live action treatment, and few I would have faith to do it, luckily Peter Jackson is one.

Legend of The Seeker wrote:I am actually really excited about the Tintin moves, the filming of the first is going to be done before the Hobbit while the second and third will be after. I've always thought these stories needed a higher budget live action treatment, and few I would have faith to do it, luckily Peter Jackson is one.

Tintin? The dog?

SineSwiper wrote:

Legend of The Seeker wrote:I am actually really excited about the Tintin moves, the filming of the first is going to be done before the Hobbit while the second and third will be after. I've always thought these stories needed a higher budget live action treatment, and few I would have faith to do it, luckily Peter Jackson is one.

Tintin? The dog?

Tintin is the kid, the dog is Snowy.

EDIT:: You're thinking Rin Tin Tin, the german shepard. Or Benji, lol.

I'm thinking of that southpark episode of Speilberg and Lucas raping Indiana Jones...

Ok, Bangkok Dangerous was crap. Now they want to re-make Old Boy? Which was fucking awesome all by itself.

When is Hollywood going to stop ripping off shit from Asia and be original?

I've never even seen the original Oldboy, so...um...

Yay Will Smith!

SineSwiper wrote:Maybe, but I don't expect this kind of behavior from Spielberg.

As Anarky pointed out, you obviously haven't seen the South Park episode about the latest Indiana Jones movie, have you?

Tessian wrote:As Anarky pointed out, you obviously haven't seen the South Park episode about the latest Indiana Jones movie, have you?

Yes, I have. And frankly, I can somewhat excuse it, since it was one of those 10 year old projects that ended up being done just to get rid of the idea of another Indiana Jones movie. It would like Duke Nukem Forever coming out and thinking, "Gee, I stopped caring a long time ago, and now that it's out, it's not really that good, either."

Not to mention that it involved Lucas. Anything that guy touches turns to shit. The first three Star Wars movies were a fluke and held up by good acting, not the movie script or directing.

Flip wrote:

SineSwiper wrote:

Legend of The Seeker wrote:I am actually really excited about the Tintin moves, the filming of the first is going to be done before the Hobbit while the second and third will be after. I've always thought these stories needed a higher budget live action treatment, and few I would have faith to do it, luckily Peter Jackson is one.

Tintin? The dog?

Tintin is the kid, the dog is Snowy.

EDIT:: You're thinking Rin Tin Tin, the german shepard. Or Benji, lol.

I was actually curious if anyone in the US was familiar with Tintin since it's a European thing (but fairly big in Canada and Latin America as well). For Sine: it is based on a Belgian reporter living in a fictional early 20th century world. There's a fictional totalitarian regime in a nation called Borduria which is somewhat based on the Nazis and ussr; as far as a military dictatorship goes. The story covers episodes of Tintin reporting on the exploits of Borduria (assassinations, supporting regimes around the world, military involvement, etc.) as well as other things like strange Egyptian and middle eastern cults that turn out to be part of an international opium smuggling operation.

In Canada we had a show based on Tintin which I loved as a teenager.

IMDB shows Speilberg will direct TINTIN (not very Speilbergian of him), but I don't think he will direct Oldboy. Spielberg hasn't done a remake to my knowledge.

Mully wrote:IMDB shows Speilberg will direct TINTIN (not very Speilbergian of him), but I don't think he will direct Oldboy. Spielberg hasn't done a remake to my knowledge.

He did do Jurassic park, though, which was a remake of a book... does that count?

I dont like, in general, how they are considering remaking a 2003 movie. Its not old yet, why dont they just dub the original and ship it over instead of ruining it?

has anyone seen this movie?

SPOILERS? (but not really, so I'm not going to white it out)

I saw it sometime last year and... It explores some more mature themes that American cinema doesn't touch.

Flip wrote:He did do Jurassic park, though, which was a remake of a book... does that count?

Flip wrote:I dont like, in general, how they are considering remaking a 2003 movie. Its not old yet, why dont they just dub the original and ship it over instead of ruining it?

Gawd, that reminds me of Michael Haneke who did Funny Games (1997) in German, then remade it last year in English. FRAME-BY-FRAME remake of HIS OWN MOVIE!!!!

bovine wrote:has anyone seen this movie?

SPOILERS? (but not really, so I'm not going to white it out)

I saw it sometime last year and... It explores some more mature themes that American cinema doesn't touch.

Same for me, i got it on Netflix last year sometime and i think the American version would be re-written all to hell for our fragile religious minds.

Aren't a lot of horror movies we see remakes of fairly recent Asian ones?

Legend of The Seeker wrote:Aren't a lot of horror movies we see remakes of fairly recent Asian ones?

**SPOILS**

Yeah, but not ones that sister fuck.

Youd hate this movie Seek, remember how appalling that topic was to you in Martin's books and how the late Roman empire was more agreeable to read? Lol.

Legend of The Seeker wrote:Aren't a lot of horror movies we see remakes of fairly recent Asian ones?

YES, and we remake them and only do it 10% right. Just the plots are the same. Don't worry, we'll Americanize it.

Flip wrote:I dont like, in general, how they are considering remaking a 2003 movie. Its not old yet, why dont they just dub the original and ship it over instead of ruining it?

The Departed.

Kupek wrote:

Flip wrote:I dont like, in general, how they are considering remaking a 2003 movie. Its not old yet, why dont they just dub the original and ship it over instead of ruining it?

The Departed.

Point, taken.

Mully wrote:

Flip wrote:He did do Jurassic park, though, which was a remake of a book... does that count? :)

My thoughts exactly. There is no such thing as a "remake of a book". Most good movies, including many that Spielberg did, used a book as source material. (Anybody heard of Minority Report? How about Munich? War of the Worlds? AI? Catch Me If You Can? Schindler's List? Hook? How about Empire of the Sun, or The Color Purple? Any of those books/movies ring a bell?)

Mully wrote:Gawd, that reminds me of Michael Haneke who did Funny Games (1997) in German, then remade it last year in English. FRAME-BY-FRAME remake of HIS OWN MOVIE!!!!

You mean like this movie?

SineSwiper wrote: My thoughts exactly. There is no such thing as a "remake of a book". Most good movies, including many that Spielberg did, used a book as source material. (Anybody heard of Minority Report? How about Munich? War of the Worlds? AI? Catch Me If You Can? Schindler's List? Hook? How about Empire of the Sun, or The Color Purple? Any of those books/movies ring a bell?)

Forgot about War of the Worlds. Could be considered a remake since it had already been a movie about tripod alien ships.

Flip wrote:

Kupek wrote:

Flip wrote:I dont like, in general, how they are considering remaking a 2003 movie. Its not old yet, why dont they just dub the original and ship it over instead of ruining it?

The Departed.

Point, taken.

See, it only counts when you actually saw the original movie.

I still don't think they'll be able to pull off that level of disturbed as they did with the original Oldboy, though.

The original will still exist, yes? Then what harm is there in having a different - probably more western - take on that idea? Your conservative attitude with remakes and adaptions would make more sense if the new version subsumed the original, but it does not.

Sometimes that means you end up with Bangkok Dangerous. Other times you end up with The Departed. Even if we get one Departed for every nine Bangkoks, I still think it's a net win.

The people of this board have a tendency to think that movies that don't aren't made under the exact criteria what they want (ie. Captain America) that they should not be made; and that the world will probably end if they are made.

Legend of The Seeker wrote:The people of this board have a tendency to think that movies that don't aren't made under the exact criteria what they want (ie. Captain America) that they should not be made; and that the world will probably end if they are made.

so wait..... you're saying that the world WON'T end if bad movies are made? Whew, there's a load off my shoulders.

Tony Scott's LIFE will end if he remakes The Warriors, as he is apparently planning on doing.

I'm more on the side of if the original is so good its apparently worth remaking, then why not just bring over the original and show it in theaters, like Crouch Tigger Hidden Dragon did. Oldboy is not an old movie by any means.

I can understand movies like 'I Am Legend' since 'Omega Man' is a fairly old.

Crap... you know I don't have a great argument... Just as long as Battle Royale is never remade I will be okay.

bovine wrote:

Legend of The Seeker wrote:The people of this board have a tendency to think that movies that don't aren't made under the exact criteria what they want (ie. Captain America) that they should not be made; and that the world will probably end if they are made.

so wait..... you're saying that the world WON'T end if bad movies are made? Whew, there's a load off my shoulders.

Remember when videogames ended when Wii Fit was released?

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Before you throw your computer at your television and yell, “Aww, hell naw!” take a moment to ponder the existence of an Old Boy remake/new manga adaptation that doesn’t at all, in any way, star Will Smith.

Seriously. That equipment is expensive. Calm down.

Even without Will Smith, the prospect of a remake isn’t a pleasant one, so keep your fingers crossed that this remains a rumor. Pajiba has the inside scoop that I Am Legend writer Mark Protosevich’s pass at a script is into the studio, they like it, and that Mandate is attempting to get Spielberg back on board.

If this is true, and if they can’t get Spielberg, the secondary rumor is that they’ll try to put the hammer in Danny Boyle’s hands. Boyle might be a strong choice, even if Spielberg doesn’t shy away from violence the way people seem to think he does. Either way, while this all shakes out, I’ll be watching Chan-wook Park’s version on the television I didn’t destroy earlier.

Geeze. Watching a few minutes of the dub on Netflix Instant Watch made me angry enough.

If Stanley Kuprick could make Clockwork Orange, then maybe Spielberg could remake Oldboy. However, the violence needs to be intact to keep the integrity of the movie. I'm already pissed about Let The Right One In being remaked into a less than average movie. This will probably end up the same with it being "not as good as the original".

SineSwiper wrote:If Stanley Kuprick could make Clockwork Orange, then maybe Spielberg could remake Oldboy. However, the violence needs to be intact to keep the integrity of the movie. I'm already pissed about Let The Right One In being remaked into a less than average movie. This will probably end up the same with it being "not as good as the original".

Kuprick also made Clockwork Orange? Was it better than Kubrick's 1971 classic? :-)

Spielberg doesn't make good films anymore. Really, other than Munich, what has he done in the last decade that's been relatively widely accepted? With that pedigree, do you really want him messin' with something like Oldboy?

As long as he doesn't mainstream it up I can't see it being too terrible as long as basic events are kept intact. I cannot imagine a single white actor coming near to the desperation involved with Min-sik Choi's acting, though. I think he did such a good job in the original portrayal that any other actor trying to follow him is just going to do a shit job in comparison. Or maybe I'm wrong. Depp's pretty fucking amazing at being insane.

Will Smith... No.. just, no.

Shrinweck wrote:As long as he doesn't mainstream it up I can't see it being too terrible as long as basic events are kept intact. I cannot imagine a single white actor coming near to the desperation involved with Min-sik Choi's acting, though. I think he did such a good job in the original portrayal that any other actor trying to follow him is just going to do a shit job in comparison. Or maybe I'm wrong. Depp's pretty fucking amazing at being insane.

Oh, I could think of several white actors that could pull it off. (Why do you have to be racist? Does it have to be a black man?) But, you need the crazy eyes, crazy personality, and the "this guy is going to fuck you up with a hammer" look. But, you also need more than just crazy, but a sense of justifiable anger.

As much as I bitch about him being one-sided, Jack Nicholson would work great here, but he's too old and would probably just be channeling The Shining, anyway.

James Gandolfini would work, but I don't think the audience would feel remorse towards the character with him, and I think he's trying to keep away from that kind of typecasting.

Christian Bale, maybe. Hell, even Nick Cage, if he put his mind to it. With all of those almost hits, there's bound to be somebody that we have little background with that ends up being a really good fit.

Racist? What? There's no point in a "Western" remake if it isn't a white or a black guy and I gave quick examples of both, even though one was it not working... Benicio Del Toro could pull it off, probably if you want to go in another 'direction' altogether. The point of my post is that I don't think anyone can pull it off as well as Min-sik Choi, given that he's the standard to beat and he did such an amazing job. This isn't putting down white actors as much as saying Choi is the fucking man and I'm going to say the best until the remake proves otherwise.

Shrinweck wrote:As long as he doesn't mainstream it up I can't see it being too terrible as long as basic events are kept intact.

Have you seen a Speilberg film, ever? Aside from 2 that I can think of (Munich and A.I.), everything he's done has been for mainstream audiences. We're talking about the guy who pioneered product placement for cryin' out loud (Reeses Pieces in E.T.)