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Satriani vs Coldplay

PostPosted:Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:17 am
by SineSwiper
Joe Satriani sues Coldplay for Plagiarism

Hmmm...these are two artists (or a group, speaking for Coldplay) that I really respect, and it's disappointing that something came to this. Specifically, it's Coldplay's Viva La Vida on the album of the same name, and Satriani's If I Could Fly from Is there Love in Space.

I own both albums, so I've listened to the songs, and yes, I can see the similar riff. The riff in question is the beginning violin notes in Viva La Vida that basically plays through the whole song is similar to some riff later in If I Could Fly.

But, we're talking about four notes here. The odds of somebody either creating the riff from scratch, or accidentally borrow the riff subconsciously, are very good. I hope this case doesn't go to trial or really go anywhere.

Re: Satriani vs Coldplay

PostPosted:Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:55 pm
by Imakeholesinu
SineSwiper wrote:Joe Satriani sues Coldplay for Plagiarism

Hmmm...these are two artists (or a group, speaking for Coldplay) that I really respect, and it's disappointing that something came to this. Specifically, it's Coldplay's Viva La Vida on the album of the same name, and Satriani's If I Could Fly from Is there Love in Space.

I own both albums, so I've listened to the songs, and yes, I can see the similar riff. The riff in question is the beginning violin notes in Viva La Vida that basically plays through the whole song is similar to some riff later in If I Could Fly.

But, we're talking about four notes here. The odds of somebody either creating the riff from scratch, or accidentally borrow the riff subconsciously, are very good. I hope this case doesn't go to trial or really go anywhere.
Sounds like Metallica wanting to copyright the c chord.

PostPosted:Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:56 pm
by Flip
Funny stuff, but nothing unusual when you are dealing with a limited number of note combination. I remember the Vanilla Ice/David Bowie controversy back in the day with Ice Ice Baby.

PostPosted:Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:00 pm
by RentCavalier
See, I would care more about this if it wasn't for the fact that Coldplay is and always has been a shitty band.

So, meh.

PostPosted:Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:13 pm
by SineSwiper
I like Coldplay, so fuck off.

And the stuff with Ice Ice Baby is pretty legitimate. It was completely stolen Bowie's Under Pressure. Just like MC Hammer, or Puff Daddy, or Will Smith, or any of the other rappers that like to rip off samples from other songs. I don't mind some sample use, but when it's the backbone of your song...

Re: Satriani vs Coldplay

PostPosted:Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:40 pm
by Lox
Imakeholesinu wrote:Sounds like Metallica wanting to copyright the c chord.
Uhh...you know that was a hoax, right?

PostPosted:Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:41 pm
by bovine
I'm with rent on this one. Crybaby music is just not my thing. Taste in media, religion, and ideology are things that can always be argued, but no one is ever right.

PostPosted:Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:01 pm
by RentCavalier
No one may ever be right, but I am willing to make an arguement that some people can be VERY VERY wrong.

PostPosted:Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:54 pm
by Mully
Read up on your math and musical theory.

PostPosted:Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:07 pm
by Julius Seeker
Ripping off songs is nothing new.... There must be dozens of songs that rip off Good Times... Then there is Pachelbel's canon....

PostPosted:Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:32 pm
by Kupek
I don't buy it. I've heard lots of songs over the years that are similar - several times now I've heard the beginning of Foo Fighter's recent The Pretender and thought it was Stairway to Heaven. (I actually think a radio station in NY made a joke out of this, by actually playing Stairway after The Pretender.)

When you have lots of people making pop music, there's going to be some similarities.

PostPosted:Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:26 pm
by Shellie
heeeyy...I love Coldplay...so...SHUT UP!! :P

:/