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Best movie villain poll

PostPosted:Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:55 pm
by Julius Seeker
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The Butcher was portrayed by Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York. Known for his skill with the knife, being able to fling a blade to a target hundreds of feet away in under a seconds notice with deadly accuracy. He was a racist and a murderer, leader of the natives who was attempting to keep immigrants out of New York. Based loosely on a real person.

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Amon Goeth was portrayed by Ralph Fiennes in Shindler's List. A Nazi criminal who viewed Jews as less than animals. He ran a concentration camp where for sport he would sometimes sit at his post and casually shoot at the working Jewish people for fun. He executed any Jewish person who said anything to him. He was based directly on a true Nazi mass murderer who was executed at the end of the war.

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Derek Vinyard was portrayed by Edward Norton in the movie American History X. He was the face and voice of a quickly growing white power organization in LA California. He led his growing group on brutal beatings against immigrants and murdered 2 people, one of which was executed in brutal fashion; Derek forced his victim to open his mouth, putting his teeth on the curb of the road before Derek stomped hard on his head crushing his scull.

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Alex is portrayed by Malcolm McDowell in A Clockwork Orange. Leads a cult like gang responsible for a reign of terror involving rape and murder. He is a true psychopath that despite a very heavy lesson, involving brainwashing leading to a torturous existence preventing him from doing evil while viewing a world full of evil, did not learn a thing and saw himself as simply cured (and he would essentially just get on with his day like "well, that's over!") when the brainwashing was reversed.


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Hannibal Lector was portrayed by Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs and several other films. A true fully psychopathic cannibal serial killer who was so tuned to killing that his heart rate would not even rise beyond normal levels as he bit a womans face off (as described in a scene) or brutally beat a cop to death, cutting his face off, and using it as a mask as he is rushed to hospital (doctors checking his pulse found it at normal levels). He is also a genius.


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TYRANOSAURUS!!

PostPosted:Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:03 pm
by Flip
A racist, a nazi, a nazi, a racist, psychopath, dinosaur...

PostPosted:Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:35 pm
by Imakeholesinu
Daniel Day Lewis.

PostPosted:Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:35 pm
by Mental
I am unqualified to comment on most of the above movies. Therefore I must declare it a tossup between Unicron and General Zod.

PostPosted:Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:45 pm
by Mental
Actually I didn't see Daniel Day-Lewis on there until Holesinu pointed it out. His Butcher was effin' great. His on-again off-again accent mastery was dead on, I completely believed him to be representative of an intensely racist nativist bigot in 1860's New York, and given what I've discovered most of the present-day ones to be like, that is absolutely terrifying. I watch that movie often, it's one of the few I own, and it's mostly because Day-Lewis' racist is such a compelling character, a man capable of genuine compassion, deeply held beliefs and his own brand of honor even as he commits horrendous, unimaginably evil acts in the name of nativist American supremacy. Not because I sympathize with the Butcher - had I been alive at the time, I would have considered those people my mortal enemies, the same way as I consider myself absolutely opposed to xenophobic nativism today - but because it made some of the facets of it easier to understand, for me.

The scene in which the prominent, burly Irishman is elected to high office in the Five Points, and he believes that he can as a result stand up to Bill as an representative of the people, and as a result Bill gets tears in his eyes and then throws a butcherknife right into the Irishman's back (can't remember dude's name for the life of me), is one of the best I've seen in film, and unfortunately highly relevant to the political climate of today.

PostPosted:Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:10 am
by SineSwiper
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PostPosted:Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:51 am
by Julius Seeker
Some tidbits about the actors:

McDowell's character Soran was the one to finally kill Kirk in Star Trek Generations.

Fiennes, Norton, and Hopkins all starred in the movie Red Dragon.

Hopkins and Fiennes have acted in many historical films, both have played Nazis and both have played Jews.

Ralph Fiennes (Voldemort) has a nephew Hero Fiennes who plays young Tom Riddle.

Daniel Day Lewis's first role was small, but it involved another great actor, Ben Kingsley, in the movie Gandhi. This was also Kingsley's first film.

In an old poll

PostPosted:Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:47 pm
by Flip
Dont forget...

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Where in every other shot you can see Bowie's balls.

PostPosted:Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:00 pm
by Shellie
I dunno. I really hated that TRex from Land Before Time. He killed Littlefoot's mom! Stupid Sharptooth.

PostPosted:Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:43 pm
by Eric
I like Sine's list better however,
SineSwiper wrote: Image
is disqualified for almost dying to an olive.

PostPosted:Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:29 am
by Zeus
That was a cherry, Eric :-)

Here's another little tidbit: Ralph Fiennes starred in both Manhunter and the remake Red Dragon, the first time as the detective, the second time as the psycho.

PostPosted:Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:43 am
by Julius Seeker
They're a totally different kind of villain. Maybe in another poll. The thing about super-villains is their nature is known, there is no complexity about them. The only dimension about them is "what evil thing will they do next?". The question is, how to crush him, not what he will do with himself in the end of the story. Both types of villains have their place, but I don't see them as comparable.

IE. Hannibal is charming, respected, and even gains the empathy of the good characters in the series... Deep down is beyond rotten and evil. Not to mention, Anthony Hopkins is about the only person who could have pulled it off; his acting job was flawless and despite mimiced, his character's spirit has never been duplicated.

PostPosted:Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:15 pm
by SineSwiper
Not exactly. At least not the first three. I think I would still pick Joker as the all time favorite.

And about Zorg, fine, he almost dies to a cherry, but there's something maniacal and comical about his personality that makes him deserved to be put on the list. (Though, I think Ledger's Joker pulled this off a lot better.)

PostPosted:Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:35 pm
by Anarky
As much as I love American History X, I would never put Derek Vinyard on a list of vilians. Most of the movie shows his realization that all of the hate was bullshit, and how all of his decisions has ruined his life and his families. (granted in the original ending after his brother gets killed you see him shave his head again)

PostPosted:Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:51 pm
by Flip
Anarky wrote:As much as I love American History X, I would never put Derek Vinyard on a list of vilians. Most of the movie shows his realization that all of the hate was bullshit, and how all of his decisions has ruined his life and his families. (granted in the original ending after his brother gets killed you see him shave his head again)
Whoa, thats powerfully awesome, they should have kept it in.

If the theme here is conflicted enemies, then i vote for:

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I thought Pitt did a great job portraying the twistedly confused Achilles.

PostPosted:Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:10 pm
by Julius Seeker
Anarky wrote:As much as I love American History X, I would never put Derek Vinyard on a list of vilians. Most of the movie shows his realization that all of the hate was bullshit, and how all of his decisions has ruined his life and his families. (granted in the original ending after his brother gets killed you see him shave his head again)
I see him as being both, and that the battle is between the two characters; Derek in the past and Derek in the present. It's kind of like Fight Club, only the actor that portrayed Tyler Durden was different for the purpose of the story.

PostPosted:Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:32 pm
by Kupek
That ending for American History X would have changed the whole tone of the movie.

PostPosted:Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:52 pm
by Anarky
Kupek wrote:That ending for American History X would have changed the whole tone of the movie.
Yup, but the director was so pissed off that he didn't get to shot that ending he tried to take his name off the movie
In the special feature on Blu-ray Disc, during the credits, Derek is looking in the mirror with a shaving razor in his hand, but decides to put the blade away.
Hmm guess they did add it in the Blu-Ray... but I heard he didn't hesitate in the ending
His only feature film to date is American History X (1998), a drama about racism. Kaye was not happy with the film as released, claiming that co-star Edward Norton re-edited the film to give himself more screen time.[1] He attempted to remove his name from the credits and use the traditional pseudonym Alan Smithee. After the producers, New Line Cinema, told him to pick a different name, he chose Humpty Dumpty.[2] The Directors Guild of America ultimately denied Kaye the right to remove his name from the production, on the grounds that he had placed ads in Variety magazine attacking the film, thus violating Guild rules regarding the right to invoke the Smithee pseudonym. Kaye proceeded to sue the Directors Guild and New Line Cinema, claiming they had violated his First Amendment rights.

PostPosted:Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:55 pm
by SineSwiper
His only feature film to date is American History X (1998)
And this is why you don't try to sue the Guild.

PostPosted:Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:12 am
by Imakeholesinu
I'm surprised no one put vader up there.

PostPosted:Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:05 am
by Shrinweck
Imakeholesinu wrote:I'm surprised no one put vader up there.

Hmmmm. George Lucas?

PostPosted:Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:40 am
by SineSwiper
Well, I guess the fact that Lucas fucked up Vader might be a reason.

PostPosted:Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:03 am
by Kupek
Also the fact no one is taking this seriously.

PostPosted:Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:26 am
by Mental
Imakeholesinu wrote:I'm surprised no one put vader up there.
Vader pussied out of his "evil" credentials at the end of the third movie. But I'd take Palpatine/the Emperor as a contender for sure.