The Shrine

Release date of Independence Day weekend, 2011

http://movies.ign.com/articles/103/1030366p1.html

Crisis averted? What the fuck rock did you crawl from? Transformers 1 was a fluke. The rest of his movies suck ass.

Since when did you turn traitor and become a Bay sympathizer?

SineSwiper wrote:Crisis averted? What the fuck rock did you crawl from? Transformers 1 was a fluke. The rest of his movies suck ass.

Since when did you turn traitor and become a Bay sympathizer?

The Rock is an excellent film, one of my fav action flicks of all time

I'm really confused, I thought you hated Bay and his Transformers movies.

Yeah, I have to believe this is Zeus' style of sarcasm. haha

Eric wrote:I'm really confused, I thought you hated Bay and his Transformers movies.

Not once have I ever given my impression of either Transformers film (both of which I've seen). I was simply arguing against his history and the script appearing to molest my childhood beyond belief prior to release of the original. However, I HATED everything he did before then save for The Rock. I posted this because it just came out and I know a lot of you are fans and may want to know.

I honestly didn't think I had to put "sarcasm alert" in the post considering my past tirades against Bay. Would you believe me if I said "Thank GOD Uwe Boll's releasing that Rampage film, I couldn't imagine anyone else doing it!"? Likely not... :-)

BTW, the Rampage film is actually coming from Boll. I didn't make that up.

New crisis for Transformers 3: writers are gone to focus on Star Trek 2

http://movies.ign.com/articles/103/1032287p1.html

Which would be a better movie.

SineSwiper wrote:Which would be a better movie.

These guys wrote the first two films

Then I weep for the franchise.

Or did they write the first Star Trek movie, and just pop more retard pills for the Transformers shit?

They were two of the writers of the first one. They're both guys who got their start with Hercules the Legendary Journies.

RentCavalier wrote:Then I weep for the franchise.

Or did they write the first Star Trek movie, and just pop more retard pills for the Transformers shit?

The director is in charge of implementing the script. Bay's history is that all his flicks are light on story but heavy on action and style. I doubt all of his flicks had poor scripts, he just makes films in a certain way that a lot of people very much enjoy

I have kind of come to think that Bay is himself a walking crisis. I LOVED Transformers immediately after seeing it, being like "OMG robot fights were really cool". Then an odd thing happened. Between that day and the next day, all of the overburdened, flagrant, egregious fight scenes faded from my head and left me with an odd desire to savor the plot. Then I realized that is because there was nothing to savor. I swear going to that movie was like eating a spectacular sushi dinner that vanished as soon as it hit my stomach, leaving no trace of anything nutritive behind.

Replay wrote:I have kind of come to think that Bay is himself a walking crisis. I LOVED Transformers immediately after seeing it, being like "OMG robot fights were really cool". Then an odd thing happened. Between that day and the next day, all of the overburdened, flagrant, egregious fight scenes faded from my head and left me with an odd desire to savor the plot. Then I realized that is because there was nothing to savor. I swear going to that movie was like eating a spectacular sushi dinner that vanished as soon as it hit my stomach, leaving no trace of anything nutritive behind.

All of his movies up to Transformers, save for The Rock, had no rewatch value for one simple reason: style, no substance. You're talking about a guy who came from the music video world, his entire success has come from quick bursts of visual and auditory stimulation, not from depth of narrative. That's why you enjoy his films but don't really go back again on home video. I really think the only reason The Rock didn't turn out that way is 'cause he wasn't nearly as popular or successful (monetarily) yet and didn't have complete control.