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Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:02 am
by Zeus

Re: Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:32 am
by SineSwiper
At least he was in "Me and Orson Welles" directed by Richard Linklater, and in a episode of Firefly, and in a few episodes of Robot Chicken. So, the guy's got some indie street cred.

Re: Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:43 pm
by Zeus
Do you see him as Kaneda? I don't....at all

Re: Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:07 pm
by SineSwiper
Well, considering that all of the characters looked Japanese, and that they are looking towards a more Western audience, I don't think anybody would fit any of the roles.

Re: Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:53 am
by Zeus
SineSwiper wrote:Well, considering that all of the characters looked Japanese, and that they are looking towards a more Western audience, I don't think anybody would fit any of the roles.
And this is why I'm very concerned about the film now. If you just take an idea of the source material and turn it into a film, you get SMB. You have to care about it in order for it to turn out well. Casting someone like Efron, a teeny-bopper actor with half the acting ability of DiCaprio or Reeves and you have to tailor the role to him. As Kaneda, that means most of the flick, and that's not good.

Let's hope to hell the rumour ain't true

Re: Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:37 pm
by bovine
Zeus wrote:
SineSwiper wrote:Well, considering that all of the characters looked Japanese, and that they are looking towards a more Western audience, I don't think anybody would fit any of the roles.
And this is why I'm very concerned about the film now. If you just take an idea of the source material and turn it into a film, you get SMB. You have to care about it in order for it to turn out well. Casting someone like Efron, a teeny-bopper actor with half the acting ability of DiCaprio or Reeves and you have to tailor the role to him. As Kaneda, that means most of the flick, and that's not good.

Let's hope to hell the rumour ain't true
Wait... Reeves? Are you referring to acting prodigy, Wild Stallions originating member, and star of Point Break - Keanu Reeves as an example of dramatic talent?

Re: Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:56 pm
by Zeus
bovine wrote:
Zeus wrote:
SineSwiper wrote:Well, considering that all of the characters looked Japanese, and that they are looking towards a more Western audience, I don't think anybody would fit any of the roles.
And this is why I'm very concerned about the film now. If you just take an idea of the source material and turn it into a film, you get SMB. You have to care about it in order for it to turn out well. Casting someone like Efron, a teeny-bopper actor with half the acting ability of DiCaprio or Reeves and you have to tailor the role to him. As Kaneda, that means most of the flick, and that's not good.

Let's hope to hell the rumour ain't true
Wait... Reeves? Are you referring to acting prodigy, Wild Stallions originating member, and star of Point Break - Keanu Reeves as an example of dramatic talent?
Referring to Keanu, he of extremely limited acting ability, like DiCaprio or Willis

Re: Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:18 pm
by SineSwiper
Zeus wrote:And this is why I'm very concerned about the film now. If you just take an idea of the source material and turn it into a film, you get SMB. You have to care about it in order for it to turn out well. Casting someone like Efron, a teeny-bopper actor with half the acting ability of DiCaprio or Reeves and you have to tailor the role to him. As Kaneda, that means most of the flick, and that's not good.
Wow, okay, let's bring up a SMB movie reference. It was an horrible 80's VG movie. Akira is probably the most famous anime of all time. People that don't watch anime know that Akira is one of those top ones. That was totally apples and oranges.

Even then, who the hell ARE you going to cast with that role? Some know-nothing Japanese guy, just because he looks the part? Because that's what I'm hearing, yet you're bitching about acting ability in the same breath. At least Efron has some professional acting chops.

And it's has Morgan Fucking Freeman in it. Look, you can have this, or you can have the recent live action Dragonball movie. Which one do you want?

Re: Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:15 pm
by Zeus
SineSwiper wrote:
Zeus wrote:And this is why I'm very concerned about the film now. If you just take an idea of the source material and turn it into a film, you get SMB. You have to care about it in order for it to turn out well. Casting someone like Efron, a teeny-bopper actor with half the acting ability of DiCaprio or Reeves and you have to tailor the role to him. As Kaneda, that means most of the flick, and that's not good.
Wow, okay, let's bring up a SMB movie reference. It was an horrible 80's VG movie. Akira is probably the most famous anime of all time. People that don't watch anime know that Akira is one of those top ones. That was totally apples and oranges.

Even then, who the hell ARE you going to cast with that role? Some know-nothing Japanese guy, just because he looks the part? Because that's what I'm hearing, yet you're bitching about acting ability in the same breath. At least Efron has some professional acting chops.

And it's has Morgan Fucking Freeman in it. Look, you can have this, or you can have the recent live action Dragonball movie. Which one do you want?
When you cast the star of High School Musical and one of the most sought-after young stars for paparazzi, you have baggage. I don't want baggage in my Akira, I just want Akira.

I don't care if the guy "looks" the, I care if the part is played the way it's intended to be played. He can be non-Japanese, blond or a red-head, and sound nothing like Kaneda, but he still has to be the character Kaneda. Don't bring in someone who changes the role, it's the role that matters. Honestly, it's better if they bring a relative unknown in. Even if Effron's in it, they're still not going to get the teeny-bopper crowd, so why try for that angle.

I luvs my Morgan Freeman and all, but this is not about him. He can't save the movie on his own

Re: Zac Efron = Kaneda?

PostPosted:Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:24 pm
by SineSwiper
Zeus wrote:I don't care if the guy "looks" the, I care if the part is played the way it's intended to be played. He can be non-Japanese, blond or a red-head, and sound nothing like Kaneda, but he still has to be the character Kaneda. Don't bring in someone who changes the role, it's the role that matters. Honestly, it's better if they bring a relative unknown in. Even if Effron's in it, they're still not going to get the teeny-bopper crowd, so why try for that angle.
Quit trying to typecast the guy. Maybe the guy doesn't want to be typecasted by that one set of movies. Like I said earlier, the guy has some indie movie cred, so give the guy a chance. He started in that recent Charlie St. Cloud movie, which isn't exactly the kind of movie that I would watch, but at least it shows that he can give off some star presence.

And all of that is pretty damn good for a 17-year-old.