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kali o. wrote:But I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, and that's about all I expect Disney to pimp out from past IPs.

People who thought George Lucas was ruining their childhood memories of Star Wars are going to be in for a shock with what Disney is going to do to them. Their specialty is driving IPs to the ground until they reach a molten core.

SineSwiper wrote:

kali o. wrote:But I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, and that's about all I expect Disney to pimp out from past IPs.

People who thought George Lucas was ruining their childhood memories of Star Wars are going to be in for a shock with what Disney is going to do to them. Their specialty is driving IPs to the ground until they reach a molten core.

There are VERY few people who are gonna complain having someone other than Lucas doing the films. It'll be nice seeing what directors who grew up loving Star Wars can do. Seems to have worked out well for Marvel.....

And when it comes to merchandising, you honestly think Disney's gonna whore out Star Wars more than Lucas? Remember, that's all that company had. Disney has TONS of IPs. Heck, after Phantom Menace came out, LucasFilms actually actively reduced the amount of licensed stuff because Phantom was whored out too much even for their liking. I don't think Disney could over-expose anymore than Lucas already did

Dude. This is the same company that single-handedly extended copyrights in the US, just so that Steamboat Willy didn't fall into public domain.

Star Wars is going to be in Disney World, in toys, in random video games, probably in the next Kingdom Hearts, and they are probably going to make a goddamn breakfast cereal out of it.



DRIVE. THE. IP. Ha ha. INTO. THE. GROUND. Ha ha.

Oh no, not cross-promotion!! LucasArts would NEVER have done that!!

Who cares, they've done right by Marvel so far, I'm excited. :p

Speaking of Marvel and gaming Marvel Heroes looks pretty sweet

SineSwiper wrote:probably in the next Kingdom Hearts

That would be awesome.

Yeah I don't have a problem with Star Wars being used for that stuff.. it's not like it was super pious about product placement previously - it's a Lego video game for pete's sake.

Eric wrote:Who cares, they've done right by Marvel so far, I'm excited. :p

Mostly because they've let them do their own thing, with the resources behind them. It's a win-win, as long as Marvel keeps putting out the good movies.

SineSwiper wrote:

Eric wrote:Who cares, they've done right by Marvel so far, I'm excited. :p

Mostly because they've let them do their own thing, with the resources behind them. It's a win-win, as long as Marvel keeps putting out the good movies.

What do you think Disney is with their non in-house stuff? Did you know that Disney released Pulp Fiction since they own Mirimax (we'll talk about them driving out the Weinstein's later)? Most people couldn't even tell they owned all those other movie studios (like Touchstone, Morgan Creek, etc.) or that they own ESPN. Yes, you know they own ABC because of the Wonderful World of Disney, but that's about it, isn't it?

You're talking about their in-house stable of characters. Everything else they're actually one of the most hands-off companies out there. They ain't as decentralized as Time-Warner which has no sense of itself (it's no accident they decide to hire Millar to oversee everything related to the comic book movies) but they simply don't interfere. They're known for it. Kathleen Kennedy will pretty much run the show until she proves she can't. Disney didn't pay $4B to buy a company just to fuck up what's been working for 30 years, they're much more savvy than that

SineSwiper wrote:DRIVE. THE. IP. Ha ha. INTO. THE. GROUND. Ha ha.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/s ... g-in-2015/

SineSwiper wrote:DRIVE. THE. IP. Ha ha. INTO. THE. GROUND. Ha ha.

SineSwiper wrote:

SineSwiper wrote:DRIVE. THE. IP. Ha ha. INTO. THE. GROUND. Ha ha.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/s ... g-in-2015/

SineSwiper wrote:DRIVE. THE. IP. Ha ha. INTO. THE. GROUND. Ha ha.

Marvel released a movie a year for 3 or 4 years consecutively if I'm not mistaken. They DRIVE. THE. IP. Ha ha. INTO. THE. GROUND. Ha ha?

It was a four billion dollar acquisition of course they're going to be releasing tons of shit quickly and constantly. Otherwise why bother? Everything I've heard has just cemented my position on being cautiously optimistic. They haven't really done anything I've heard about that makes me thing it's going to be shit. There are a lot of people involved that seem like they really want it to be good and not a cash grab.

Of course it's always going to be a cash grab. Merchandizing, merchandizing, merchandizing - Star Wars has always been partially about cool shit in space that can be made into toys. I'm not totally against that remaining to be the case.

Zeus wrote:Marvel released a movie a year for 3 or 4 years consecutively if I'm not mistaken. They DRIVE. THE. IP. Ha ha. INTO. THE. GROUND. Ha ha?

The Marvel Universe is composed of thousands of characters with literally millions of comic titles and billions of comics sold since they were founded in 1939. You cannot drive Marvel to the ground no less than you can stuff planet Earth into a thimble. The amount of stories and material they carry dwarves Disney, Star Wars, Star Trek, and all of the US movies ever created combined. In fact, Disney, Star Wars, and Star Trek are IN Marvel Comics!

Star Wars was a movie created by some Lucas guy that got popular. He then created two other sequels, and then marketed the hell out of this one movie idea for the last 30 years. Stan Lee creates more characters during breakfast than this guy can create in a lifetime.

You can compare apples with the goofy name Prince gave himself all you want, but it doesn't work.

Sine you're whining for the sake of whining, like do you have a point in all this? Would making a film every 3-4 years just make you feel better because there's a long wait? Long waits do not equate to quality.

If they release horrible stuff and milk it that's one thing, but we haven't seen anything just yet and we might get something amazing.

SineSwiper wrote:

Zeus wrote:Marvel released a movie a year for 3 or 4 years consecutively if I'm not mistaken. They DRIVE. THE. IP. Ha ha. INTO. THE. GROUND. Ha ha?

The Marvel Universe is composed of thousands of characters with literally millions of comic titles and billions of comics sold since they were founded in 1939. You cannot drive Marvel to the ground no less than you can stuff planet Earth into a thimble. The amount of stories and material they carry dwarves Disney, Star Wars, Star Trek, and all of the US movies ever created combined. In fact, Disney, Star Wars, and Star Trek are IN Marvel Comics!

Star Wars was a movie created by some Lucas guy that got popular. He then created two other sequels, and then marketed the hell out of this one movie idea for the last 30 years. Stan Lee creates more characters during breakfast than this guy can create in a lifetime.

You can compare apples with the goofy name Prince gave himself all you want, but it doesn't work.

Star Wars is a universe and will finally be treated like one on a movie level. It's not just about the story of the movies, it has grown into so much more over the last 36 years. There are so many other characters and storylines that have been created you can't just call it a film franchise. It's a universe much in the same way Marvel is a universe. Obviously, Marvel has MUCH more, but that don't mean Star Wars isn't the same thing on a smaller scale (just not nearly as small as you think) and can't handle A LOT more media (including movies and TV) being released in it

The other major difference is with Star Wars, they're gonna re-create the universe rather than build on what's been done. As cool as the Zahn books, Shadows of the Empire, etc., were, they're not officially canon.

SineSwiper wrote:The Marvel Universe is composed of thousands of characters with literally millions of comic titles

Well, a couple thousand characters in tens of thousands of comics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ma ... E2%80%93M)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ma ... E2%80%93Z)

And I have noticed a gigantic amount of them are other non-Marvel peoples' IPs, like Gene Roddenberry, Robert E Howard, Hanna Barabera, George Lucas etc...