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Avatar bumped up to 4 sequels - begins film production

PostPosted:Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:03 pm
by Julius Seeker
I know James Cameron and Avatar aren't very popular around here, but I really enjoyed the first movie!

It's a little crazy considering how long Cameron usually takes on a movie, it was something like 7 years between the end of Dark Angel and the first Avatar. His earlier movies were usually about 2-3 years apart.

Now 2018, 2020, 2022, and 2023 we're seeing films that will probably be about 2.5 to 3h in length.

While on that note, it's not going to be a big continuous plot like The Hobbit. They're all going to be standalone films that are part of a saga that presumably take place in the same solar system as the Na'Vi planet; at least, that's what earlier details indicated.

From what I gather, the process involved a lot of character and world design. The scripts were written first as two films, then split into a trilogy, then they designed the locations, factions, and characters. Then they re-wrote the scripts to reflect the designs, and ended up with the need for a fourth story.

They are setting up to begin filming this month in New Zealand. Initial budget was estimated at 415 billion in 2013, then in 2014 it was reported to be at 1 billion for the planned trilogy, so presumably higher than that now. Considering James Cameron has been the reigning box office champion for the past 19 years, he has no need to prove he's worth every penny.
The filmmaker announced that there will be four "Avatar" sequels, not the previously planned three. "We have decided to embark on a truly massive cinematic process," he said.
Cameron said as he was planning the three sequels, he found it limiting. "We began to bump up against the limitations for our art form," he said, explaining that he decided he would need more installments to tell the whole story.
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Cameron said each of the four sequels will be able to stand alone, but will together create a saga. His goal is to release "Avatar 2" at Christmas 2018 and then a new film in 2020, 2022 and 2023.
"I've been working the last couple of years with a team of four top screenwriters," he said, "to design the world of 'Avatar' going forward: The characters, the creatures, the environment, the new cultures.
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"So far, the art I'm seeing, is in pure imagination, really far beyond the first film," he added. "It's going to be a true epic saga."
The original 2009 film earned $2.8 billion worldwide.
Cameron also spoke at length in support of the theatrical experience.
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"So together, we're going to continue to make this industry the greatest show on earth. That's what we do," he said to hearty applause.
Cameron also slammed the Screening Room, saying, "I think it's absolutely essential for movies to be offered exclusively in theaters on their initial release."
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Re: Avatar bumped up to 4 sequels - begins film production

PostPosted:Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:26 pm
by Eric
So what are we expecting from these movies? Avatar was more of a technical marvel then it was a good film, and since then we've had hundreds of 3D movies come out, the novelty of bringing back 3D again might not be as big as it was with the first film.

Re: Avatar bumped up to 4 sequels - begins film production

PostPosted:Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:44 am
by Julius Seeker
As I said, I liked it quite a bit =)

You can probably guarantee that he will be doing something new at least with the first of this bunch. Most of his films benchmark something in the industry. I would predict that with a billion dollars he'll make a movie that destroys everything else on the special effects department.

Personally speaking, I am mostly interested in the new films because I want to experience more of Pandora, and anything extended from it; rather than any new tech that will be used. My biggest draw to the first film was being immersed into a new world. It's the most imaginative and detailed original movie setting I can recall ever coming across, and I want to see more of that. I want to see how humans interact with new discoveries there. I want to see how colonials and explorers survive - whether they be capitalist villain, or good guy looking for Utopianism and scientific research; but probably a combo of the two like in the first film.

Re: Avatar bumped up to 4 sequels - begins film production

PostPosted:Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:36 pm
by kali o.
Julius Seeker wrote:They are setting up to begin filming this month in New Zealand. Initial budget was estimated at 415 billion in 2013, then in 2014 it was reported to be at 1 billion for the planned trilogy, so presumably higher than that now. Considering James Cameron has been the reigning box office champion for the past 19 years, he has no need to prove he's worth every penny.
I'm not sure it will turn a profit...

I am in agreement with Eric -- Avatar wasn't especially great (wasn't terrible either) but it succeeded on effects. What will they do this time?? VR support? Hey, that would be kinda cool....

Re: Avatar bumped up to 4 sequels - begins film production

PostPosted:Sun May 01, 2016 12:58 am
by Zeus
Eric wrote:So what are we expecting from these movies? Avatar was more of a technical marvel then it was a good film, and since then we've had hundreds of 3D movies come out, the novelty of bringing back 3D again might not be as big as it was with the first film.
The main technical difference was the cameras used by Cameron. It was a proprietary tech his bro developed. Only non-animation 3D film I ever thought looked decent other than Avatar was Pacific Rim and really, that's basically almost all animation. With Avatar, there was serious depth in the picture without it being pure animation which is why it looked so good.