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Full Pearl Harbor Trailer (3 minutes) Gave me goosebumps.. can't wait

PostPosted:Thu May 17, 2001 8:23 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion, Modern; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/touchston ... tml">Pearl Harbor Trailer</a>

Full Pearl Harbor Trailer (3 minutes) Gave me goosebumps.. can't wait</div>

PostPosted:Thu May 17, 2001 8:32 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma, Modern; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I have serious doubts about a war movie that earned a PG-13 rating. War is not a PG-13 subject.</div>

Just means they spared us on the blood... although I'm afraid you do have a point,,

PostPosted:Thu May 17, 2001 8:43 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion, Modern; text-align: left; '>would Saving Private Ryan have been as good if it was PG-13?</div>

PostPosted:Thu May 17, 2001 9:34 pm
by Oracle
<div style='font: bold 12pt "Comic Sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>How they spread one attack into an entire movie, I don't know. Another glorified American sham :)</div>

Not to be a cynic, but...what the hell, I'll be a cynic.

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 2:15 am
by Chockboard
<div style='font: 10pt arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>The preview of the movie I wrote for my school newspaper:

Pearl Harbor is certainly balancing on a precarious ledge. It has the potential of being another U-571 or The Patriot; namely a war movie that borders on rewriting history for the sake of entertainment. Producer Jerry Bruckheimer and director Michael Bay promise that historical accuracy is the highest priority on their list. However, this is a Hollywood movie. The actual plot revolves around two friends (played by Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett) from Tennessee who join the army and end up falling in love with the same nurse. The battle of Pearl Harbor and later Jimmy Dolittle's raid on Tokyo only serve as a backdrop for the fictional story. Obviously, something dramatic like a love triangle needs to be thrown in since documentaries aren't marketable.

Also of note is the fact that not a single Hawaiian or local-looking person was shown in the trailer. Nor were any Asians seen besides The Dastardly Japanese. Bay wouldn't want to confuse the film-going public, after all. And as long as the special effects are real pretty and the movie's entertaining, who cares, right? Watching the trailer, one gets the feeling that if you're going to this movie looking for a history lesson, you'll need to look elsewhere.</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 2:20 am
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt Modern; text-align: left; '>If someone goes to this movie for anything other than entertainment, then they deserve to be beaten with a stick.</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 3:41 am
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif", Modern; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>....what Lox said...Everyone should know better to than to go to a Hollywood summer blockbuster for a history lesson (though I don't think everyone *does* know it)...</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 3:42 am
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif", Modern; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>I kind of wonder about that too. Oh well, I guess this means no bullets to the head...ah well...</div>

Damn straight

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 8:25 am
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion, Modern; text-align: left; '>As long as they don't rewrite history or make glorified I don't mind</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 2:00 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 11pt "Copperplate Gothic", Modern; text-align: left; '>But how good will that entertainment be?</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 2:23 pm
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Pretty damned good I would think. :)</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 2:28 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>true, but I don't think the bombing of Pearl Harbor was all that gruesome really...</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 2:58 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif", Modern; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Nah, just a few soldiers blown the fuck up. Not gruesome at all...</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 3:15 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>well, yeah, but it was a harbor bombing, not man-to-man fighting like Private Ryan. yeah, there were plenty of deaths but it was basically planes blowing up ships</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 3:54 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif", Modern; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>See people. Look at Gentz. This is the problem with America's education system. ;)</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 6:29 pm
by El Kabong
<div style='font: 12pt Arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>Between the two of you I can see why the nation is in a decline...</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 8:01 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif", Modern; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Please. This coming from someone who thinks he's better than me.</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 9:29 pm
by Ganath
<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Hush now, all you're doing is confirming what Kabong said.</div>

It's undoubtedly going to be adorned with hyper-patriotism (the directors are notorious for that, anyway). You know, because the Americans 'won the war'.

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 10:24 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 11pt "Copperplate Gothic", Modern; text-align: left; '>The trailer's full of golden cliché lines like "a country in its finest hour". Yeah, nothing says courage and valor like melting tens of thousands of completely innocent people with the push of a button from far away.</div>

I have mixed feelings.

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 10:51 pm
by Torgo
<div style='font: 9pt Arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>On the one hand, it has great people working on it. Michael Bay has his kick-ass cinematography, Hans Zimmer is doing the score, and Randall Wallace(who also did Braveheart) wrote the screenplay.

On the other hand, it's being produced by drama master Jerry Bruckheimer, responsible for heart-wrencing films such as Armageddon and Top Gun.</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 11:07 pm
by Crono
<div style='font: 12pt Arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>Yeah, I'm kinda pissed that they were forced to lower it from an "R" rating. I mean, little toddlers don't go for those kinda movies to begin with, so let's allow some realism in there.</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 11:21 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>I'm not saying that people didn't die, I'm just saying that it can be shown in a fairly non-grotesque fashion without sacrificing too much realism</div>

PostPosted:Fri May 18, 2001 11:47 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 11pt "Copperplate Gothic", Modern; text-align: left; '>Drama queen, more like it. :)</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 3:18 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", Modern; text-align: left; '>Ish, shut up, take shrooms, squegee your brain. *ennngh ehhh* *ennnggh ehhhh*</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 3:21 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", Modern; text-align: left; '>Don't bother. Ish can't comprehend large words like "grotesque", "sacrificing", and "die".</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 1:40 pm
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Helvetica, Modern; text-align: left; '>WTF?</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 1:45 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", Modern; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/cgi-bin/st ... m3u">Great Times on Drugs</a>

Go download some Bill Hicks off of Napster or something? Or listen to this...</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 3:21 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma, Modern; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Which is not the type of war movie I'm interested in seeing. I have no desire to see gore, but I think it's a movie's job to show what it was like. Explosions from a distance don't do that.</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 4:29 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif", Modern; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Who the fu--? HUSH? You dare tell the Great One to hush?</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 4:30 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif", Modern; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>You can show the Allies invading Normandy in a non-grotesque fashion too, but it wouldn't be as real...but I see what you're trying to get at...</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 5:33 pm
by Liathional
<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>In order to promote this film in Japan, they have to focus on promoting the love story..... Even the poster was changed. Don't want to know how much of the film is edited off.........</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 5:35 pm
by Liathional
<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Shut up.</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 6:00 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>heh. the "die" part was a nice touch. i like it : )</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 6:02 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>Yeah, I'm just saying it'd be easier to keep a film about Pearl Harbor PG-13 than a film about Normandy</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 6:04 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial, Modern; text-align: left; '>"It's a movie's job to show what it was like?" Heh. Tell that to most film-makers : )</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 6:13 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma, Modern; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Which is why I probably won't see this movie.</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 9:42 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", Modern; text-align: left; '>Hell, even the older war movies used a lot of planes because of the fact.</div>

PostPosted:Sat May 19, 2001 9:43 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", Modern; text-align: left; '>The country in its finest hour? The US lost the battle of Pearl Harbor.</div>

PostPosted:Sun May 20, 2001 1:29 am
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif", Modern; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>I can't believe you are talking to me with that fairy name....</div>

PostPosted:Sun May 20, 2001 1:33 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", Modern; text-align: left; '>You mean they actually sent it to Japan?</div>

PostPosted:Sun May 20, 2001 3:27 am
by Liathional
<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>As funny sounding as it is, yes..... And they expect the film to do well.... *shrug*</div>