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American History X...

PostPosted:Sun Aug 26, 2001 2:28 pm
by Imakeholesinu
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Wow. I watched this last night by myself, and I'm glad I did. I swear, Ed Norton has to be the most diverse actor. Norton and Spacey are in my opinion two of the best actors in the buisness right now. Last night was an experience to say the least, I mean, I had seen things about Neo-Nazi's and Racist Hate groups and all that in my U.S. Government class, but it didn't seem real, it didn't bother me, then I watched this movie last night. This movie had this gritty, rough, dirt-under-your-fingernails feel to it. It keeps you guessing toward the end how everything will fall apart even after it seems that Norton's family has hit rock-bottom. If you need a reality check, watch this movie.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Aug 26, 2001 2:33 pm
by Tortolia
<div style='font: 9pt arial; text-align: left; '>One word: Curbing. *winces*</div>

PostPosted:Sun Aug 26, 2001 4:52 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana, tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I've seen the movie at least twice, and I'll answer cringe during that scene. The sound of his teeth rattling...</div>

PostPosted:Sun Aug 26, 2001 4:52 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana, tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Norton got a nomination for it. The expression his face when they're putting the cuffs on him is just haunting.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Aug 26, 2001 4:55 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana, tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>answer = always</div>

PostPosted:Sun Aug 26, 2001 8:52 pm
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Helvetica; text-align: left; '>Amazing movie... the only thing that bothers me is that they portray all skinheads as nazis or racists. Only a few of them actually are.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Aug 26, 2001 9:42 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>What kind of person would need this movie as a 'reality check'?</div>

PostPosted:Sun Aug 26, 2001 9:57 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Yes, it is quite disturbing that anyone would portray a skinhead in any sort of negative light.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 1:11 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana, tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>He's likely referring to a lot of punks who call themselves skinheads because they shaved their heads, but I think it's a non-issue. Three of my friends shave their heads, and that didn't register with any of us.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 1:50 am
by Torgo
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Heh, when I was at a friends place, we watched the DVD and tried to analyze the sounds used during that scene.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 1:56 am
by Torgo
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>In elemantary, I called every bald guy I saw a skinhead. It wasn't until middle school that I figured out it had a negative connotation.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 11:38 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>About as mute a point as Hell Angel's with shwictiskas (sp!).</div>

So you just accept everything the media tells you?  They're just concerned about ratings. You should really try researching things for yourself...

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 12:21 pm
by ManaMan
<div style='font: 12pt Helvetica; text-align: left; '>It actually started out as a working-class pride movement which stressed equality between races. Anyone with a shaved head (guys, girls, black, white, asian, hispanic) was supposed to be like a brother or sister. It originally started in Jamaica around the early ska and reggae culture and slowly spread to the UK and America. However, in the UK the working class whites were resentfull of the new carribean blacks who were immigrating to the country and, as they felt, taking their jobs. From this resentment developed racist feelings among the white skinheads which made them a target for recruiters from the "National Front" and other racist/nazi organizations, especially during the horrible recession Britain faced in the late 70's early 80's. After this, the National Front adopted the shaved head as a symbol of "white pride". This symbolism eventually spread to America. The people who still believed in the original Skinhead movement mostly just gave it up as a hopeless cause since in the media skinheads were portrayed as all being racists. The skinheads called these racist fucks "shitheads" and "boneheads" and would try to put a stop to their rallies and what not whenever possible. They've even formed several organizations such as S.H.A.R.P. (Skin Heads Against Racial Prejudice) to try to combat these racist movements spawned by shitheads as well as to spread the word about what the original skinhead movement was about.

Actually it's pretty much pointless nowadays to try to say this stuff nowadays since the media has played the whole "skinheads are all nazis" thing out so much. Most people don't really give a shit either way. My own personal belief is that only a moron needs to belong to any kind of subculture in order to have an indentity, I believe that if you really want to make a statement, you should be an individual. The only reason I posted this was because I know a few real skinheads out there who are constantly the subject of hatred by people who have only heard the media's stereotype of skinheads... or seen the white-trash actors they have on Jerry Springer who pretend to be skinheads.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 12:23 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Mute points are never quite as effective in transferring ideas as the 'moot' ones.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 12:39 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Spelling flames are always punished. Always. Welcome to Wal-Mart.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 12:41 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Curbing?</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:14 pm
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Interesting history I didn't know about. Another case of the loud few getting all the attention, I suppose.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:16 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana, tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>A person's head is stomped while their teeth are on a curb.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 11:27 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>What's to guarantee it's spelling when you type an entirely different word?</div>

PostPosted:Mon Aug 27, 2001 11:27 pm
by Tortolia
<div style='font: 9pt arial; text-align: left; '>I thought it was the neck, which would pretty much just snap - that being the point.</div>

PostPosted:Tue Aug 28, 2001 1:50 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Most are sound-alike words.</div>

PostPosted:Tue Aug 28, 2001 4:37 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana, tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Homonyms.</div>

PostPosted:Tue Aug 28, 2001 7:24 pm
by Ganath
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Exactly, for were it a spelling flame, he would've pointed out that it's spelled 'swatstika'.</div>

PostPosted:Tue Aug 28, 2001 8:56 pm
by Sephy
<div style='font: 12pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>Except you spelled that wrong too..hehe</div>

PostPosted:Tue Aug 28, 2001 9:48 pm
by Slappy White
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I shave my head, Kabong can testify... and I'm a skinhead and a nazi... Oh wait. I mean, I'm NOT a skinhead and nazi just a freak, just sometimes, a little on the weekends and Presidents day.</div>

PostPosted:Tue Aug 28, 2001 10:27 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Proper curbing technique requires the victim to bite the curb. Trust me, I know these things : )</div>

PostPosted:Wed Aug 29, 2001 3:35 am
by Drew S.
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Can you forget them?</div>

PostPosted:Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:59 am
by Imakeholesinu
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>White people.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Aug 29, 2001 9:20 am
by Blotus
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>You kidding? It's a great movie, but in no way is it a reality check.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:04 am
by Ganath
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>You do know that spelling flames won't be tolerated, right?</div>

PostPosted:Wed Aug 29, 2001 12:18 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Wow. If you honestly believe that, you're all but legally retarded.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Aug 29, 2001 5:32 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Not likely, considering the polaroids on my wall...</div>

PostPosted:Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:40 pm
by Drew S.
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>What reason would there be to...I don't wanna know. Gentz, be happy, all right?</div>

PostPosted:Thu Aug 30, 2001 12:47 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>heh heh heh : )</div>

PostPosted:Thu Aug 30, 2001 1:44 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>THERE'S NO NEED FOR NAME CALLING!</div>