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I swear to god Techno is what Classical was way back when...

PostPosted:Sun Feb 03, 2002 1:28 am
by Imakeholesinu
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>In Classical Music, you have a composer composing music.

In Techno, you have a DJ spinning dub.

In Classical Music, the composer tells which instruments to play and when to play.

In Techno, the DJ selects which turn tables and racks to use.

In Classical Music, the composer selects solo parts for certain instruments.

In Techno, the DJ selects samples to play in his/her music.

In Classical Music, many people make up the symphony.

In Techno, the DJ's equipment is the symphony.

In Classical Music, there are slow songs, action songs, and dramatic songs.

In Techno, there are Ambient, Drum & Bass, and Trance. (AMBIENT AND TRANCE ARE NOT THE SAME THING!)

In Classical Music, the music is played in great symphony halls.

In Techno, the music is played in clubs.

In Classical Music, a singer can be utilized.

In Techno, a singer can be dubbed into a song.

Classical is Techno!</div>

PostPosted:Sun Feb 03, 2002 4:39 am
by Stephen
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Those are some really broad comparisons you're talking about. I'd imagine you could arrive at the same conclusion if you used similar logic for almost any musical genre.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Feb 03, 2002 11:08 am
by Blotus
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Let's see if we're still listening to the same techno "compositions" in 200 years.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Feb 03, 2002 12:08 pm
by Garford
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; padding: 0% 0% 0% 8%; '>Trying to promote Vanessa Mae or Bond?</div>

PostPosted:Sun Feb 03, 2002 12:19 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Bingo.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Feb 03, 2002 11:48 pm
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>hahaha...I don't know about any of that.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Feb 04, 2002 12:07 am
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Prodigy was among the few techno groups to make it to main stream music. Firestarter and Smack My Bitch Up fizzled after two months on the air waves. Like Lotus said, if it lasts.....</div>

PostPosted:Mon Feb 04, 2002 1:46 am
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>AMERICAN main stream music, yes.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Feb 04, 2002 1:51 am
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>No music can be "like classical was way back then." We have pop-culture now, and marketing. Techno is comparable to classical in some ways, but it ultimately falls short.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Feb 04, 2002 12:00 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Amen...British tastes are more refined than ours.</div>

We talk about quality techno, and you mention Prodigy?!  HAHAHAHAHA!!!

PostPosted:Mon Feb 04, 2002 12:22 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Give me a fucking break! If you want a good quality techno mainstream music, look towards Chemical Bros and Crystal Method. At least they are complex, and still going strong. OTOH, you still have crappy groups like Moby and Fatboy Slim still hitting the airwaves. (Don't get me wrong, I like FBS, but I don't agree that it's complex to make.)

And with electronica having more genres than rock, and EVERYBODY in the rock/rap/metal/etc. industry experimenting with it, it's not like it's going to fade away any time soon. It'll have as long as a period as rock does, probably longer. You want proof? Here's a list of sub-genres (and a bit of history) <a href="http://phobos.plato.nl/e-primer/">here</a>. And it's not even up to date... <a href="http://dancemusic.about.com/library/blg ... Here</a>'s a simpler list.

There's new sub-genres popping up every year. Drum & Bass is only 5-6 years old, and it's huge now. Big Beat, now the biggest mainstream sub-genre, was invented in 1995. Do you know by who? Chemical Brothers, with their first album, Exit Planet Dust. Since they've moved on to progressive house, groups like Apollo 440 and Crystal Method have picked up the mantle.

(And this isn't even the shit you hear in most raves...)</div>

PostPosted:Mon Feb 04, 2002 1:55 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Does anybody realize that he's halfway joking?</div>

PostPosted:Mon Feb 04, 2002 2:10 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>I just made an example. Sheesh...you techno freak. =8^D</div>

PostPosted:Mon Feb 04, 2002 2:23 pm
by Imakeholesinu
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Joking? :P :)</div>

PostPosted:Mon Feb 04, 2002 3:17 pm
by Lee
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Hellz yeah. Crystal Method still kicks it up. Not that big a fan of Apollo, though. And I'll agree on the whole "Moby Being Shit" concept.</div>

PostPosted:Tue Feb 05, 2002 12:37 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>A very bad example. If you're going to argue, at least somewhat educated on the subject.</div>

PostPosted:Tue Feb 05, 2002 2:34 pm
by Blotus
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>You ought to take your own advice sometimes, captain.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:58 am
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Look, it doesn't matter if I picked Prodigy or Crystal Method, the FACT is niether lasted very long in the US airwaves. Got it, dummy? I'm beginning to think Zeus's dog is smarter than you, Sine.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Feb 06, 2002 10:50 am
by Imakeholesinu
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Crystal Method has made a come back since being in jail.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Feb 06, 2002 1:33 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Heh...a little controversy always helps! =8^D</div>

PostPosted:Thu Feb 07, 2002 3:10 pm
by New and Improved Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>My dog was awarded an honourary doctorate from Harvard, so I'm fairly certain he outsmarts all of you :-)</div>

PostPosted:Fri Feb 08, 2002 12:53 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Jail? What the fuck are you talking about? I saw them play like two years ago.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Feb 08, 2002 12:55 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, you're right. I should be listening to the voice of the people, like Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys. Oh, my mind is growing to their complex rhythms already! Such talent!</div>

PostPosted:Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:09 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>There aren't that many radio stations willing to take chances on "unknown" bands, unfortunately. You'll have to go to Europe and Asia(my friend's band just sent a dozen CDs to Asia's radio stations) for that.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:24 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, I know. My WLRS (who played "I Am the Walrus" for three weeks straight) when through three restarts before becoming a new rock station. Before, they used to play some hybrid bands like God Lives Underwater and Lo-Fi Allstars. Fucking corporations!</div>