The Shrine

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>Just got home from the movies and can I get a "daaaaammmnnn!!" :P I didn't know what to expect from Spiderman, I knew it would be good but I wasn't sure it could live up to all the hype... but by god it did. Right up there with Batman for comic book movies I must say. My friend said it held very true to the comic book version (I only ever watched the FOX cartoon show ;P). I dunno... it hit a cord with me, some very deep dialogue, some very kick ass action scenes :) Nothing that I could tell was stricken from the movie to add more special effects or zazz or to shorten the film; even Osborn's internal struggle with the Green Goblin is played out very well, something the cartoon show never even alluded to. Even some twists and turns I hadn't expected or ever heard of came into play.

Be prepared to say "ohhh shit" many times while watching this one. Very nicely done.

Ohh, and there's a teaser for the Hulk in the previews ;)</div>

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>The only problem I had with the movie was the green goblin. The project actually changed him in more ways...Liek he didn't have that retarded stone faced suit. His mouth moved. That was the one thing they fucked up. But yes a very good movie. Kicked major ass.</div>

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I liked it a helluva lot better than the Xmen movie. There were way too many liberties taken for it to feel like the Xmen where as with Spiderman, I really felt like it was Spiderman.

I agree with Derithian about the Green Goblin thing. I never liked the design since I saw the previews. They did the Spiderman design perfectly, imo.

and MJ was hot in this. Man, was she wearing low-cut tops in every scene or what? And the rain scene. hehe</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>The movie was true to the origins of Spidey. Yes....right down to the rassling business and father figure of Uncle Ben.

But the CG action scenes seem to have gravity pulling Spidey down too quickly....and other times, gravity was non-existant. Another complaint - Green Goblin reminded too much of those silly baddies from Power Ranger. Those are minor complaints.


Ignore them.



The movie KICKS BALLS AND ASS! MaryJane had nice nipples. =8^D

Willem Dafoe was great. Toby ~is~ Peter Parker! No one else could have done it. Thank God it wasn't Zeus' favorite actor, Leonardo DiCaprio as we had once heard afew years back! =8^D</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Also, Peter Parker invented the web slinger thingy, not having it built into his arms. I did like they way they otherwise were true to the comic. All of the stuff, like the robber and how he passed him up, and his best friend hating Spiderman (which I believe becomes the new Green Goblin). And Peter doesn't even accept MJ in the end. I didn't read the comic, but when does she finally realize it's Spiderman? It kinda leaves some room for a sequel.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Though, I did get one for Scooby Doo. Man, I hated the cartoon, but this one really grows on me. I think I want to see the movie, especially with the guy playing Shaggy. Also, there was ones for Sum of All Fears (blah), Bad Company (maybe), XXX (yeah!), and a bunch of others I forgot already.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Oh, you noticed that, too? Mmmmm...she looked hot in the rain. And I loved the red hair.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Actually, I heard it was Freddy Prinze Jr. Cameron had, like, 4 scripts rejected for Spiderman. BTW, what was the plotline before 9-11?</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Freddy Prince wanted the role. Leo had a lot of people groaning when his name was mentioned.</div>

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>yeah, the web-fluid thing kinda annoys me but I can let it go. According to the guys making the movie they thought it would be too unrealistic to have a high school kid inventing this super adhesive web fluid and building the web shooters. Still doesn't make sense to me considering the premise of Spiderman is based on the unrealistic. :) They could have incorporated it just fine and no one would have cared. Oh well.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Honestly, the movie version of that should have been in the comic. I liked it better.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>The Cosner one where they can tell the future, and also that comedy with Chris Rock and the CIA. Missed the MIB previews, stupid friends were late picking me up</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>and yes... she was damn hot :) I think the only reason for the rain in that scene was for sex appeal</div>

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>exactly...the green goblin was not a mask...The chem actually turned him into that,,,,,he didn't just put on a suit</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>What happened to his son then?</div>

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>Depends on which continuity you're going by! In the mainstream continuity, the Green Goblin is just a guy in a suit. In the new Ultimate continuity, the Green Goblin got mutated and that's his actual face.</div>

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>He managed to convey every that makes Spiderman who he is, the power with responsibility, the humor, the teenage awkwardness, the angst, everything! Parts were corny, but that's part of the Spiderman mythology too.

I could have done without some of the cheesy dialogue and a little more plot development with Uncle Ben, but I blame the screenwriters for that...</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I've seen that Chris Rock trailer at every movie I've gone to for like the last two months. I feel like I've already seen the movie...</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Actuallly, the only real problem I had with the film was the Green Goblin suit. I can understand they don't want him to fly around in a halloween costume, but that was too much. Tobey was decent enough and Dunst was nice eye candy :-)</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I was actually kinda surprised the movie was more like a 60's comic book over an 80's or 90's comic book (more character development instead of mostly action). I really liked it though, that's what Spiderman truly is. Synger (X-Men) could learn a thing or two from Jackson (LotR) and Raimi</div>

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Now would I rank this higher than Superman? Nope. If <i>only</i> Donner hadn't decided to portray Lex Luthor like a bumbling idiot, I'd give Superman the nod, without a second thought(I curse him to this day for that). The non-idiotic parts of the movie plus John Williams' score (Elfman, a good composer, still can't touch Williams' jockstrap) took Superman to a new level. As it is, I rank Spiderman just below Superman (and maybe even Superman 2), which means Spiderman is still a very good film. (I wouldn't think $114 million in 3 days good, but what do I know?)
My favorite actor in this film was definitely Willem Dafoe. Best villian since Jack as the Joker in Batman. Easily. The guy was awesome as Green Goblin and captured his insanity brilliantly. I actually felt bad for his character.

Toby was good as Peter. Definitely a wise choice. Or maybe I'm just overjoyed Freddy Prinze, Jr. didn't get the role. Anyway, I wonder if he gets too much hype for the role. IMO, Willem Dafoe stole the show....</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I'll take Elfman's Batman score over Superman any day. Williams has been recycling the same damn theme since Star Wars. "Look at me! I can ascend a perfect fifth! Sometimes even descend!"</div>

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>Somewhere along the line I think he becomes the Hobgoblin too...this has been your daily dose of comic fan geekdom.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I usually prefer Elfmans' scores over Williams', but I think the old dude still has some talent. His AotC stuff sounds great, even if a little derivative.</div>

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>So you keep hearing the same damn theme recycled because for the most part it <i>is</i> the same damn theme. I've never tried writing themes for 14 movies that have to be the same yet subtly different, but I can't imagine it's easy.

But when you breakdown his films, it's inarguable that Jaws is as different from Superman is as different from the Star Wars is as different from ET. I could go on and breakdown individual movements from all those works and other works, but I think the point has been made.

With Elfman, I'll give you Batman. Awesome theme, I love it too. But outside of that, his portfolio doesn't touch Williams (in this regard, he's like everybody else). However, Elfman doesn't have Williams' talent to (consistently) take movies to a higher plateau. In Jaws, you don't need to see the shark. Water and music is all you need. In Empire Strikes Back, you don't need to see Vader. Ships flying and the Imperial March is plenty. In Supes 2, when Clark steps out of the chamber with his power back to take on the Krypto thugs, you hear Williams' music pop in and that's all that needs to be said. In ET, the scene where ET flies above the FBI is so memorable because of Williams' theme. Williams scores have an effect that Elfman's scores have never even approached, much less matched...</div>

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I thought that the HobGoblin was just some punk off the streets, that was given a buncha of weapons and a more powerful hoverjet.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I just like Elfman's dark and quirky style better. Williams is still good, though. I wouldn't be going to his performance in three weeks if I didn't think so :)</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>However, I think one of the reasons he gets so much press is because he got to score more great movies than most film composers combined. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Superman, Schindler's List... all of these had fine scores, but I think it was the prestige of the films that made him such a critical darling at the Academy (he generally gets nominated for at least one score every year). I mean, can you remember any of the scores he did for lesser known films? Sabrina? Sleepers? The Patriot?

Unlike John Williams, Danny Elfman has scored few movies most of us would call "great." Batman is certainly his most well-known, but does anyone know about his outstanding work in Edward Scissorhands, Dolores Claiborne, The Nightmare Before Christmas, or Sommersby? No, because they're not nearly as memorable.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>I thought HobGoblin was Harry Osborne</div>

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>In the cartoon, the hobgoblin was some rich guy. Course, if the Spiderman cartoon was anything like the Xmen cartoon, they messed with continuity some.</div>

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, in the normal comic continuity, he's a mercenary who gets outfitted with Osborne's tech. There's been a bunch of people under the Hobgoblin mask, including Harry.</div>

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>On the otherhand, I think a major part of the success of many of the movies that Williams has worked on is due to his scores. Spielberg says so. True, the movies would have been good anyway. But the scores pushed them to another level.

Still, I think I'd rate Goldsmith higher than Elfman overall.</div>