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Blade 2 = Uber!

PostPosted:Wed Sep 04, 2002 8:20 pm
by Slappy White
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Blade 2 = Uber!</div>

PostPosted:Wed Sep 04, 2002 11:19 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I take it you bought the DVD? Yes. It's that good.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:22 am
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Blade 2 is fucking awesome top to bottom...</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:27 am
by Slappy White
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The DVD is the friggin best! It has a million extra's. Guillermo del Toro is so cool. He's jumped from someone I didn't know to one of my fav directors. His commentaries are fun to listen too..</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:30 am
by Slappy White
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The DVD is the friggin best! It has a million extra's. Guillermo del Toro  is  so cool. He's jumped from someone I didn't know to one of my fav directors. His commentaries are fun to listen to.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:49 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Not bad, but doesn't touch the original</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:55 am
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>You need glasses.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 1:09 am
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I just watched the DVD tonight, too. Very cool movie.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 11:18 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I have them...and they're the right presription. I just look for different things than most....like quality</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:00 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I know your main complaint was the CG sequence of the "stealth vamps" and the evil daughter turned good. Okay. But the rest blew the first out of the water. IMO.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:11 pm
by Slappy White
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>So what part wasn't "quality".</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 12:26 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>Disagree-- I thought the sequel topped the original nearly hands down. The first one didn't have all that much of a story...mostly backstory (and I love twists)</div>

For once, Zeus is right. Blade 2 fucking SUCKED compared to the first one.

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 1:14 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>And it was all due to those idiotic uber-vampires or whatever. Not only did they look fucking stupid, but whose absolutely fucking moronic idea was it to make Blade's main antagonists into creatures that can't be beaten into submission? Listen, Blade beats the shit out of things - namely, vampires and their kin. That's what he does. His badass-MO, if you will. Now, taking this fact into account, why in God's name would you write a script with badguys that <i>can't</i> have the shit beaten out of them? Seriously. I mean, Jesus Christ...UV guns? How fucking <I>GAY</I> is that?! Hey, here's an idea for Blade 3! How bout vampires that can only be killed by pretty flowers and bunny rabbits! Fucking Jesus...</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 1:16 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>The part where Blade didn't do SHIT. Which was basically the whole movie.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 1:51 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Aiieeeeeeeeeeeeeee! He has a tulip!</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 4:51 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>What if....by some coincidence....you're BOTH WRONG? =8^O</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 7:43 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Storyline-wise, that's partially true. Action-wise, you're fucking crazy!</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 7:51 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Not possible. Name me one time when I've ever been wrong about anything....yeah, I can't either.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 7:51 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>The bunnies! *Hissss!* They are too cute! *Skreeee!*</div>

PostPosted:Thu Sep 05, 2002 10:12 pm
by Slappy White
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>What movie did you watch?</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 12:17 am
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Each day you wake up, you're wrong. =8^)</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 1:06 am
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>The motorcycle fight was decent. His fight with the girl was cool (albeit 90% CG). The part where he slapped Ron Perlman in the face was cool. Otherwise he did nothing but shoot light at things and get the crap beaten out of him.</div>

No chance....(explanation inside)

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 2:13 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Just so you know, I LOVE the first movie and Blade 2 was one of my most anticipated movies of 2002 (along with Austin Powers, Star Wars, Spidey, and The Two Towers), so I was there first weekend.

Everything I loved about the first movie was comprimised in the second. Story? The first one had a cool main plot with a lot of great background story being flushed out in nice, subtle ways. The second had a neat main plot, but the background crap was just that, crap. You COULD forgive that since the first had built up the world so much, but you need the rest of the movie to make up for it. Characters? Pfft, not even close here. Whistler was Whistler, but Blade had MUCH more depth in the first. He wasn't just a badass, they also really flushed his human side and did a great job of making him into a very tragic hero. In the second, he was just "cool" Blade, badass only. Everything else didn't matter. Also, the Vampire group was "meh". There was lots of them and since there was so many, all were 2D characters aside from the girl (who was FUCKING hot, BTW). They didn't even give closure to the doctor character from the first film either, who was a surprisingly strong female character (we don't get too many of those in movies nowadays). The female vampire from the second wasn't really that strong, she just acted tough, which is what they do with female roles nowadays to give them fake depth. As cool as Nomak was, he just didn't have the on-screen presence of Frost. A lot of that had to do with the fact there was a second main enemy (the father vampire) and they had to split the time among the two, so neither was as good as they could have been. And considering just how good Frost was, it was a letdown, albiet a smaller one.

And if you want to talk about the fighting sequences, I just flat out prefer real action sequences (yes, they were sped up a bit, but that's not a big deal) to super CG-enhanced ones. I mean, the CG in the second was ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE. It was too much. They were like a kid in a candy store, using CG in place where they didn't need to just because they could. Having said that, the fight sequences were fairly neat, just not nearly as good as the ones in the first.

At the end of the day, it was a weaker film than the first in every way. To me, it was the characters and story of the first that made it one of my fav action flicks. The sequel wasn't horrible, just horribly disappointing.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 2:15 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The story is one of the main reasons the first one was so popular</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 2:17 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Story and characters. Action wasn't horrible, but lower quality, IMO, than the first</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 2:23 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Hey now, don't put words in my mouth. I didn't hate the sequel, it just didn't touch the original</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 2:31 am
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>His eyes are OK. He just needs good taste and there's no doctor that can do anything about that. :)</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 2:32 am
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Agreed. del Toro is the damn shizneet...</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 6:17 am
by Andrew, Killer Bee
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>And he's directing the upcoming Hellboy flick! Rock the fuck on!</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 6:18 am
by Andrew, Killer Bee
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>Oops, this was meant to be in response to the del Toro posts below :).</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:40 am
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>I didn't hate it either. I'm just a lot more pissed off about it than you are : )</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:43 am
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Hahahaha</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 2:21 pm
by Lox
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>As long as the rabbits have "sharp, pointy teeth", it could work.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 3:52 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>He's gotcha there :P</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 7:10 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Bancio?</div>

PostPosted:Fri Sep 06, 2002 7:42 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>CG? You mean the jump scenes and the ninjas? That's all of the CG that it had. How can you do the jump scenes without CG?</div>

PostPosted:Sat Sep 07, 2002 12:54 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The most blantant overuse of CG in the film was when they used it in the first fight scene where Blade fights the girl. It was a standard fight scene, just like the ones they did in the first. But, for no reason, they used CG. I can't figure out why when the first one worked so good without it</div>

PostPosted:Sat Sep 07, 2002 3:42 pm
by Nev
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>i loved that you could watch the "light" from those bombs shooting down the corridor.</div>

PostPosted:Sat Sep 07, 2002 5:01 pm
by Lee+S.
<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>I agree, too. Blade 2 really was crap compared to the first one. They should have spent more time on it.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Sep 08, 2002 5:46 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Yeah, he shut me up good :D</div>

PostPosted:Mon Sep 09, 2002 11:25 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, like I said: the ninja scene. I'm guessing the lights didn't look right without CG, but I argee that it wasn't needed. However, that's about the only unneccesary CG I saw.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Sep 09, 2002 11:26 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, that was totally bad scripting.</div>