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Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers surges past The Fellowship in sales worldwide as it enters the Japanese and Asian markets. Still 128M until the 1B mark that analysts believed it will make.

PostPosted:Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:17 pm
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers surges past The Fellowship in sales worldwide as it enters the Japanese and Asian markets. Still 128M until the 1B mark that analysts believed it will make.</div>

PostPosted:Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:58 am
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>damn, I guess a lot of people who didn't see Fellowship in theatres rented the DVD. The only person I know who hasn't seen the movies is my stupid sister who wants to wait till all 3 are out</div>

PostPosted:Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:26 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Good. Hope they consider creating The Hobbit after the final trilogy (you realize the title is a spoiler, right? =8^P HA!</div>

A year ago I expected the second one to be the lowest selling part of the movie....

PostPosted:Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:51 pm
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>The Fellowship has the advantage of being the beginning, the starting point. The Return of the King is in the best position because it will have the big climactic scenes which finish the film. The two towers had neither of the benefits, it has no beginning and no end to it really, it is the middle of the movie.

As you said, people must have seen the DVD of the first (since it was the highest selling DVD of all time) and then they went and saw the second part. Now imagine what it's going to be like for the third, people have been waiting for the third and final part for a very long time, it is where most of the movies budget went into, and in the book it is the best part. The third movie is also supposedly the longest (which might be a good or a bad thing).

It's just a shame the movie didn't do well at the Academy Awards, but it's understandable considering it is not an American film, and the Academy Awards traditionally give much more weight to American films (though it may change with the third part).

As of now, The Lord of the Rings Box Office sales are 1.75 Billion dollars, right up there with Titanic, and the final portion of the movie has yet to be shown (of course, each one is considered a separate movie, but it's nice to think of things this way =P)</div>

PostPosted:Tue Mar 25, 2003 3:41 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>They've been asking Jackson that since the first one made enough money for the three combined. We'll see just how much desire he'll have to do yet another movie in Middle Earth after 7 years on the trilogy</div>

PostPosted:Tue Mar 25, 2003 6:55 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Peter Jackson is from New Zealand, but New Line Cinema is an American studio. I think it's considered an American movie.</div>

PostPosted:Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:24 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>yeah-- this is definitely an American movie; filmed in New Zealand yes-- but like Kupek said the studio is American</div>

It's not an American movie, it was filmed in New Zealand, nearly all of the actors and production team were from the UK, New Zealand, or Australia. Peter Jackson is from New Zealand, it's his movie. New Line really just invested the funds...

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:38 am
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>You wouldn't call Lord of the Rings an American book just because some New York Publishing company Published it now would you?</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:57 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm not so sure about that. It's like saying that the Toyota Corolla is a Canadian car 'cause it's manufactured in Cambridge</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 2:36 am
by Flip
<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>i agree, funded by the US but not a US film.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:39 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>No, but movies aren't books. IMDB has it listed as New Zealand and USA. Seems appropriate to me. The principal actors are from Hollywood. I don't think the Academy sees it as a foreign film.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:40 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Not to mention it was released in this market first.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:41 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>That actually supports my argument, since the analogy maps to the movie being "manufactured" in New Zealand.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:24 am
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Yep. A Toyota car is a Japanese car no matter where it's made.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:51 am
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It was designed in Japan though, the Lord of the Rings movie was designed in New Zealand.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:53 am
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>No, it was released in the UK first.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:54 am
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It was released in the UK first.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:03 pm
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>How about this then, Goldeneye 007 was funded and published by a Japanese company, does that make it a Japanese game?</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:10 pm
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Check the credits, New Line only was liscensed to fund the project. The movie was developed completely in New Zealand by New Zealanders.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:07 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Accura cars are designed and made in America. It's still a Japanese car.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 2:18 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>LotR is considered in all regards as an American film that was filmed in New Zealand. No one calls it a New Zealand film and it is never referred to as a foreign one either</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:24 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Games aren't movies. The analogy breaks down. It is a part of the American Hollywood system - you can consider it to not be an American film if you want to, but I don't, and I don't think most people do.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:16 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>I know of absolutely no one who thinks of it as a new zealand movie</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:38 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Is the company American?</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:39 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>New Line Cinema is an American studio. End of fucking story.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:14 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Honda makes them, so no.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:25 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>That's correct. Honda's PR attempt to make Accura an American car company failed from the get go.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Mar 27, 2003 12:28 am
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>you're preaching to the choir-- Seeker's the only one who doesn't think so</div>

PostPosted:Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:20 am
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Ummm, have you checked the credits? whoever calls it an American film is either very ill informed or an idiot.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:23 am
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Peter Jackson and all people involved in the films production (minus the cast, most of which are from the UK) are from New Zealand, End of Story.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Mar 27, 2003 12:48 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>so...90% of the world is wrong? Ok...</div>

PostPosted:Thu Mar 27, 2003 12:49 pm
by Tessian
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>so Jackson came back to his home country (which also happens to be the most beautiful place on earth) to film the movie and hired locals. The movie is owned and financed by New Line Cinema, hence it's an American movie</div>

PostPosted:Thu Mar 27, 2003 1:07 pm
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>American or New Zealand....the movie is great. I mean....a movie that generates a Billion dollars from attendance alone????? WHEW!</div>

PostPosted:Sat Mar 29, 2003 11:20 am
by Julius Seeker
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It says it's from New Zealand in the credits multiple times. Where do you get this 90% thing from?</div>