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<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.hollywoodbitchslap.com/featu ... chslapping Hitchens...</a>

Because this never got replied to, and it's worth repeating, instead of wasting my time arguing here.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Mother Theresa was hardly a saint, actually</div>

<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>A fairly good response to the "UnFahrenheit 9/11" review... long too... This guy must have really been pissed off, kind of like was Seeker after he read it, but at least this guy makes his point.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>A fairly good response to the "UnFahrenheit 9/11" review... long too... This guy must have really been pissed off, kind of like Seeker was after he read it, but at least this guy makes his point.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Well technically...</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>The thing is, i read articles that piece apart Fahrenheit 9/11 WITH fact, then i read a thing like this that pieces apart a critique with fact.... there is enough fact out there to fuel both sides, who is right?</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I actually agree with several of Hutchisons' points, but I haven't had the time to post my thoughts yet.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I just figured people here were intelligent enough to piece it all together just by reading the article, it is quite obvious. I wasn't going to spend an hour or two writing up an article like this other guy has in light of this. Maybe people here have not seen the movie, in which case they should not be arguing about it in the first place. This guy writing the counter article essentially has the same position that I did, but he has a large audience to write to, there's only like 5-8 people here who care about this situation =P</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>None of which you have proven in the slightest, but since there's this other fellow who can hold your hand and connect the dots for you, I suppose it hardly matters.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>There's nothing like an appeal to authority to wiggle one's way out of an argument. Don't worry, though. With a little effort, I'm sure you could have typed something just as good as this other man's piece.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>There's no point on continuing an argument that's already been won. Also, next time you try to argue using an article, try using one that's not so obviously full of shit.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Was she officially dubbed a saint? I wasn't aware. Anyway, she was a bitch. Is that a bit clearer? : )</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>There, there, you're being such a good sport about this. Don't feel too bad, there's always next time.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>There, there, you're being such a good sport about this. Don't feel too bad, though. There's always next time.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Obviously you're speaking for yourself.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Ah both of you just shut the fuck up. Stevie....the article you posted was terrible. Id reeked of bias to high hell. The response, while still bias was much less so.... there arguement over now shut the fuck up</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>No, child. Just you.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I thought I said shut the fuck up......</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>It's the oldest trick in the book: when you don't want to, or can't, reply to the other guy, find someone else's position and claim it for your own. (And, if you're Seeker, go one step further and pretend that the article is in every way a perfect reflection of his own views, as though he could have written something just as good if only he had the time and incentive. If he really has that kind of writing talent, he should be submitting manuscripts to publishers instead of wasting his time around here.) It's convenient and easy, and it's also the pussy way out.

Make no mistake. I didn't post the Hitchens piece because I subscribed to each and every point. I have my opinion of Fahrenheit 9/11, some of which overlaps with his, some of which, doesn't. I only posted the damn thing initially because someone else posted a glowing review of the film, and I wanted to provide a little balance of views. That's it. The emperor has no clothes.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, you're pretty fucked up =P</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Don't equate me to the object of your perverted desires you sick freak!</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>once again, it's a stupid fucking argument now shut the fuck up</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>There's only room in my mind for you, Seeker. I often dream of what our love would be like.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Some people don't have the time to argue on the Internet. And also, I do believe there's a retarded man running towards the finish line...</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Once again, shut the fuck up</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>No no no, Seeker's in way over his head, and I find it highly entertaining.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Over his head in what? Stephen's article has been challenged, and all he can do is provoke Seeker? Talk about pot, kettle, black.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>It depends on which facts are further from the subject. You can still bombard an article with facts, yet be totally off-topic and miss the point of the actual message.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I'm not going to comment on the merit of the articles, but Stephen actually constructs real arguments.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>And to some degree, Seeker. Yeah, there can be plenty of implied arrogance in-between, but at least there's some content there to reply to. I repeat my same statement: Stephen hasn't constucted a real argument on the current article yet.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>No he doesn't. And towards the end neither was stevie. that's why I just said to shut the fuck up. really once an arguement degrades to what it degraded to there is nothing to do but shut the hell up</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>When you belligerently tell people what to do, they're not likely to listen.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Well they shut up didn't they :p</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Sorry, but I'm not going to play the role of Christopher Hitchens' apologist. I only responded to Seeker's original post because his criticisms were so far off the mark that I simply had to address them (it's always fun to catch Seeker making a blatant gaffe; I'm only human). His subsequent claims of having "won" the argument were most amusing, especially since he hadn't offered one single substantial word in his defense but instead papered over his deficiencies by using someone else's work as a shield. No, I think Seeker didn't want to bother with trying to defend his own words, so he went and borrowed someone else's in the hopes that I would tie myself up debating him rather than Seeker. If I wanted to debate this person over at Hollywood Bitch Slap, or whatever, then I'd write him personally.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>And I am obligated to "construct an argument" on this piece, because...?</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Thank you.</div>